ED, The analogy of clear sky with occasional and transitory clouds is a good one. The traditional zen teaching about how to deal with these 'clouds' while sitting is to acknowledge them but not dwell on them. The analogy or story-teaching is: 'when you are occupied doing something important at home and a friend knocks on your door, you answer the door, acknowledge your friend, listen to what he has to say but do not invite him in for tea'.
...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote: > > > > > > Bill, > > I think that you have stated that Shikantaza is sitting with a 'clear > mind' or in a state of 'mind-less-ness.' > > These statements appear to be compatible with the analogy used by two of > my past Tibetan Buddhist teachers, namely, that the meditative state of > mind is like a clear blue sky, with a few clouds occasionally floating > by. > > It's a matter of emphasis. The meditator's mind must dwell mainly in and > on the clear sky state, with clouds paid a subdued notice. > > --ED > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote: > > > > > > "According to Dôgen Zenji, shikantaza i.e. resting in a state of > > > brightly alert attention that is free of thoughts, directed to no > > > object, and attached to no particular contentis the highest or > > > purest form of zazen, zazen as it was practiced by all the buddhas > of > > > the past." > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/