Hello Daniel,

Thank you for a response of breadth and depth, which I will reflect on a
bit.

Namaste

--ED



--- In [email protected], "empty0grace" <empty0grace@...> wrote:
>
Hello again Ed,

Item 1: I would say initially, as you say: "for the mind to recognize
the
impermanence,unsatisfactoriness and non-dual nature of all experiences."
But the
contemplation of anicca, dukkha and anatta are only the beginning.

Their
contemplation leads to ever deeper release, which leads deep healing of
the mind
and energy and eventually to the penetration of the four noble truths
"in a
single moment", next, the emptiness so realized, after stabilization,
naturally
comes into contact with the realm of form, and then the door is opened
for the
blossoming of the heart and the merging of form and emptiness.

Of course you
will rarely hear a Theravada practioner speaking of such things. The
culture
does not accept. You might find traces of it in the interstices of
silence, the
poetic minimalism and the elegance of understatement. There is more
intuition
there than most recognize.

The instructions given in the Theravada are simplistic in a sense. The
emphasis
is on right practice, which if executed cannot help but lead one to
final
reality. This form of conservatism does not allow for hardly any verbal
expression of those "higher states". Reality takes care of itself so to
speak.
This is both a strength and a limitation in my view.

Item 2: Yes, the 37 requisites of enlightenment! These are well known.
They are
the qualities of the rightly developed mind. But one should not be
daunted by
this list. Upon inspection one can see that many of them are redundant.
It is
like a part of the body that can be seen from different points of view.

  The
tissue of the lungs for example, can be seen a having structural
function,
mechanical function, and also metabolic functions.

In the same way ekagatta,
unification of mind, can be seen as a controllling factor, a factor of
enlightenment or a jhana factor. Also, all develop quite naturally and
organically out of the simple application of eightfold path.

These lists are
really just an Abhidhamma analytical tools for which I personally have
not much
use.

Thank you Ed!

Daniel




> Hi Daniel,
>
> [D] I was taught that the path lies not in the experiences but in the
> relationship of mind to those experiences, which boils down to
> sati-sampajana, mindfulness and clear comprehension.
>
> [ED] Primarily for the mind to recognize the impermanence,
> unsatisfactoriness and non-dual nature of all experiences?
>
> [D] > This is because it is mindfulness and clear comprehension that
> develops the five controlling faculties, the five jhana factors, and
the
> seven factors of enlightenment.
>
> [ED] I checked on this and found the [Buddha's] list of the benefits
of
> meditative practice to be quite impressive!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhipakkhiy%C4%81dhamm%C4%81
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhipakkhiy%C4%81dhamm%C4%81>
>
> Namaste

>ED



> > Hi Ed,
>
> > I was taught that the path lies not in the experiences but in the
> relationship of mind to those experiences, which boils down to
> sati-sampajana, mindfulness and clear comprehension.
>
> > This is because it is mindfulness and clear comprehension that
> develops the five controlling faculties, the five jhana factors, and
the
> seven factors of enlightenment.
>
> > They can of course be developed in other ways, but only mindfulness
> develops them all in a balanced manner.
>
> > My experience bears this out, except perhaps for the aspect of
> balance, which although the best of all other methods, still needs
some
> tweeking by the teacher, because although the mental factor of
> mindfulness does indeed incline toward balance, unfortunately the
human
> mind under the influence of greed, hatred and delusion, does not.
>
> > Namaste D.



> > What Is and What Is Not the Path
>
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVg0IDTvjf4&feature=channel_video_title
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVg0IDTvjf4&feature=channel_video_title>
16:24
> > empty0grace  May 2, 2011

> > Daniel, If experiences are not the Path, what is one to do? --ED




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