Mel,

Your post below sounds perfectly fine to me.

However, Beverely discontinued her membership yesterday.

Also, empty0grace discontinued her's several day's ago.

Just FYI...

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Beverley, Bill and all
> 
> Bill, you seem to be much better in putting things in words much better than 
> I, and so I'll see if I can leave it to someone like yourself or another 
> forum member (who follows zen) if my explanations are not adequate
> 
> Beverley, there is nothing intellectual about zen. The intellectual 
> discussions that goes on with zen whether here or anywhere else is not a part 
> of zen. Zen as it's base level has only 2 things it possesses...zazen, and 
> daily living. A book like ZEN MIND BEGINNER'S MIND gives some ideas for the 
> head, but it's not a bible of zen as such. There are no formal instructions 
> in zen at its base level
> 
> Zen has its calming aspect, which is zazen. Many outsiders and new seekers 
> get the impression that zazen is calmness, and yet true calmness is in 
> activity right in the middle of the world's hustle and bustle. Also, zen is 
> not about morals, or even clean living. Sometimes, one has to do bad or ugly 
> things because it's the natural thing to do. I'd try to tell you otherwise, 
> but then again, I'm not a salesman selling zen to you as a product of sorts. 
> Despite the Bodhisattva vows, there is no evangelism in zen. Such an idea is 
> just ridiculous
>  
> That'll be it for the moment, and I'll have to come back later to talk more 
> about BigMind. Sorry buddy, but I've bee quite sick of late from the cold 
> winter weather
>  
> Buddha be praised
> Mel
>




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