Audrey, Everybody has heard Jesus and Buddha speak, in a large variety of ways. If you go to Rome now, the Inquisition is no longer, you only hear people shouting that their birthright is to enjoy life with just a little work and a lot of vacation. Where are the zen elements? Instead of Gospel of Thomas, you can put Joshu's quotations there. But they are not Christianity. Anthony
--- On Fri, 22/7/11, audreydc1983 <[email protected]> wrote: From: audreydc1983 <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen elements? To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 2:17 PM Anthony, I suppose you are thousands of years old, and have heard Jesus speak, so you know exactly what he meant. ***I am not in Rome. It is not hundreds of years ago, it is now.*** Your view very plainly illustrates the difference between literal and interpretive reading. ~Audrey --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Audrey, >  > Jesus is the son of God. From different perspectives you explain, it is part > of Christianity. However, the Gospel of Thomas that Bill mentions, is a > Christian renegade. If you went to Rome with that view some hundreds of years > ago, you would probably face Inquisition. >  > Anthony > > --- On Wed, 20/7/11, audreydc1983 <audreydc1983@...> wrote: > > > From: audreydc1983 <audreydc1983@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen elements? > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 20 July, 2011, 11:59 PM > > >  > > > > > Anthony, > > When I was taught that Jesus was the son of God, I did a little logical > thinking: > WHAT IF the bible didn't mean that Jesus HIMSELF was literal 'Son of God? > What if he meant something to the effect of: "I am the son of God, you are > the son of god, we are all god's children?" To me, this makes much more > sense. > > Sounds pretty inclusive, and not dualistic to me. Although, religions of the > book have to be interpreted by each reader. It really depends on if one > decides to interpret the "words of Jesus" literally, or not. It's up to the > reader. > > ~Audrey > > --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > Bill, > >  > > Gospel of Thomas is considered heretical in Christianity, so Whether or not > > you try to prove there are zen elements (it looks that way) does not > > represent the religion that often quotes Jesus as saying he is the son of > > God, who must be obeyed without question. That is not zen. > >  > > Regards, > > Anthony > > >
