Sophistry was given a bad name by Plato. The Sophists were his arch-rivals. They were skilled in rhetoric, especially persuasive speech which targeted emotions. He won, so now we worship logic. (But still find that rhetoric is just as powerful today as it was then.) ...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Mark Perew <mperew@...> wrote: > > Sophistry > On Jul 26, 2011 10:19 AM, "billsmart" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > There is presently only one official 'teacher' on the Zen Forum that I > know of: JMJM. He does preach some, but always ends his sermons with 'I have > said not a word' and therefore remains blameless. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Bill, do teachers on the Zen Forum preach a lot? --ED > >> > >> PS: Is not 'Zen Forum' an oxymoron? > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Mayka, > >> > > >> > Thanks for your excellent definition of 'preaching'. I agree with it. > >> > > >> > In that sense I do not beleive zen teachers 'preach'. If they do > >> they've lost the immediateness and sponteneiety that characterizes zen. > >> I do suspect many Buddhist teachers preach. Chrisitians, Jews and > >> Muslims preach a lot. IMO. > >> > > >> > ...Bill! > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
