Makya, As you've described 'mindfullness', it is the same as the various terms I use: 'Buddha Mind', 'Buddha Nature' and 'Just THIS!'; and the same as the terms others have used: Joshu's 'Mu', Unmon's 'dried shit-stick', Tozan's 'three pounds of flax'; and the non-verbal responses like: Gutei's holding up 1 finger, Joshu putting his sandles on his head, turning around and walking away, and of course Siddharta Buddha's 'smile while holding up a flower at Vulture Peak'.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Bill: > To me mindfulness is the equal as to say as zazen in motion. the form and > the non form interact with each other. It appears as if there was self and > selfs but then there is not. And yet there is a self and selfs dissolved by > mindfulness. (To be in the safe I'd like to point it out this is 0nly Mayka > personal experience). I do understand that you don't trust as much the word > mindfulness because seeing all the multi-interpretations about it, it seems > as this word was losing its reality and power. In fact hurt feel truly > grateful of having received that teaching directly by TNH and for several > times at the time he wasn't as crowded and away from the commercials. Not > only I received the teaching but this is the one I have practised the most > due to all those difficulties I have to keep the daily discipline of sitting > down zazen. >  > During sitting down zazen one deals with things that couldn't be possible > while in motion. And in motion one deals with things that is not possible > to do it while sitting down because the external objects of mind are not > there. Eating a peach in mindfulness is not exactly the same as eating a > peach absented of mindfulness. In the first case all senses are awake and > aware, there is no separation between the peach and the one who is eating > and yet there is an apparent separation. In the second case one could > perfectly eat a peach in a very mechanic way and with a complete absence of > awareness about the peach and ones body senses and physical responses to it. >  > When I'm in a traffic light I don't think about the traffic light is green or > red. There is no thought in seeing that. The traffic light is my bell > reminder of mindfulness, of going back to Buddha Mind. So the tool of the > breathing is used to bring the mind and body in togetherness so I stop > right there where I am. Looking at the traffic light changing its colour, > the traffic going up and down, the people in the street....it's a very > lively moment with no thought of it as it's all a direct experience with the > present moment. Try it!. And the same goes with phone. Try it too!. > You'll be seeing what a difference it makes from when you pick up the phone > at the first ring and when you do at the third ring providing you > stopped right there where you were at the first ring. >  >  They're little bell awakening reminders that will save you hours of sitting > down.  The more reminders the easier to incorporate Buddha Mind into your > daily activity.  Cooking is another marvellous effective way  by the > practice of mindfulness or Buddha Nature applied on it. I believe that the > same Dogen used the activity cooking in the same way as myself and Even > wrote a book about it!.  I was truly surprise when I discovered that some > years ago. That verification incremented the confidence over this very, > very simple practice. >  Mayka >  >  >  > . >  > --- On Fri, 2/9/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Mahayana > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, 2 September, 2011, 10:33 > > >  > > > > Makya, > > I 'THINK' what I call Buddha Nature/Mind and what you call 'mindfulness' is > the same thing. I hope so. I just think 'mindFULLness' is not a good > description. I would feel more comfortable with 'Empty Mind' or 'Clear Mind'. > 'MindFULLness' always makes me think of a mind that is full of thoughts, and > that is definitely the opposite of what 'Buddha Mind' means to me. > > I don't sit every day either. There are some 'zeroes' for me too. > > The practices you are using sound okay to me. They are similar to what I do > except I don't wait on the 3rd ring on purpose. When I hear the ring I pick > up the phone and talk, or if I'm busy just let it ring. When I'm at a traffic > signal I don't usually think that the light is red or green. I just stop or > walk, whichever is approriate. I mean I do obey the signals, but I don't > think about it. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > Bill; > > Can you give a description and giveàan exampleàof the way you > > incorporate Buddha Mind in your daily active life?ààIs it Buddha > > Mind applied in daily activitiesàthe same as mindfulness?.àThis is > > to verify if are the same thing or there is something different. > > à> > My practice is similar to yours with the difference that sitting down > > oràzazen sessions lack of your dailyàdiscipline and there are > > daysàstill of zeroàsitting down. I make up a bit with it with the > > applicationof mindfulness in different activities during the day such as > > walking in the park, giving food to the birds once a week after collecting > > hard bread for them.àBirds are very grateful for that specially in > > winter time.àWhile awakening in the morning, leaving my bed, going to > > the bath, àbrushing my teeth, shower and all the rest of toilette time > > including the one of evacuating. I'veààalso train myself in the use > > reminders such as the ring of phone.àAs soon as I hear the first > > ringààInstead of picking it up immediately I stop and use my > > conscious breathingàand pick up the phone at the third ring. Other bell > > reminder are the traffic lights.àAs soon as I see red it brings me back > > to my conscious breathing > till it changes to green...etc.à> > > > à> > Mayka > > > > > > --- On Thu, 1/9/11, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Mahayana > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, 1 September, 2011, 2:42 > > > > > > à> > > > > > > > JMJM, > > > > I do consider zen my practice. > > > > I acknowledge that most people classify it as a subset/sect of Mahayana > > Buddhism, but I do not consider zen a subset of or co-dependent on > > Buddhism. In fact I consider zen the core Buddhism was built around - like > > a cultural-specific presetation layer. > > > > I can't speak for those that consider themselves Mahayana Buddhists, but my > > practice consists of shikantaza (clear-mind meditation) which is usually > > associated with zazen (seated meditation) but can be practiced any where at > > any time under any conditions. I sometimes refer to that state of > > clear-mind (or no-mind) as 'Buddha Mind'. My personal practice is to > > incorporate Buddha Mind more and more into my daily life. > > > > The core teaching of my zen practice is 'Just THIS!. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - > > èæúÃ¥æââ¢Ã§Ã²Ã¾Ã¦ÃÅ"à ½ <chan.jmjm@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Forum, > > > > > > Do you consider "Zen/zen/your practice" a Mahayana practice? If so, how > > > does Mahayana actually practice? What is its core teaching? > > > > > > Thank you in advance, jm > > > > > > -- > > > Learn the Basics of Chan Meditation... > > > http://www.chan-meditation.org > > > Chan in everyday life... > > > http://www.chanliving.org > > > To be enlightened in this life... > > > http://www.heartchan.org > > > To save our world... > > > http://www.universal-oneness.org > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! 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