Interesting article about the auditory and vocal skills. I never looked at it this way before. On a side note, I remember gaining conciousness when I was a kid. Although I don't remember when it happened, I do remember that it hit me like a lightning bolt. It was like I became self-aware, like I woke up from a dream. Everything was the same, but it all looked different, took on new meaning, new life. I was never the same after the that. I think about it from time to time, trying to figure it out. I've noticed that if you look an adult in the eyes, some of them look like they are self-aware, aware of what they are doing and why they are doing it. Like everything in life was a concious choice to make. Other adults though look like they're still in a daze, following the motions, doing what they were doing because they were told to do so. Like the way kids eyes look and the way kids behave. They're there, you can see that they are there, but they are not really there. Sounds strange I suppose, but sometimes when you meet a person, they look like they're caught in a whole other world, a different realm of reality.
--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > This is because toddlers are not self conscious yet. They experience (are > conscious of) all their various feelings and perceptions but haven't yet > mentally organized them into the notion of a single 'self' that is 'having' > all those feelings. I remember the exact moment I first became self conscious > and realized I was me, that all those various feelings all belonged to a > single thing called me. I was a very young child in my bed in the attic in a > tremendous rising storm. All of a sudden the window next to me slammed shut > with a bang in the wind and as I turned to see what happened I suddenly > confronted my own reflected image staring back at me. With a huge shock I > suddenly realized I was me! > > The window had hinges on the right side, it wasn't a double hung type, so as > it slammed shut I saw my own reflection snap into view as myself staring back > at myself... > > Of course all this demonstrates that the 'self' is just a mental construct, > and in that sense an illusion as ancient Indian and Buddhist philosophy point > out... > > Edgar > > > > On Dec 22, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Robert Karl Stonjek wrote: > > > > > > > Toddlers don't listen to their own voice like adults do > > > > December 22nd, 2011 in Psychology & Psychiatry > > > > When grown-ups and kids speak, they listen to the sound of their voice and > > make corrections based on that auditory feedback. But new evidence shows > > that toddlers don't respond to their own voice in quite the same way, > > according to a report published online on December 22 in Current Biology. > > > > The findings suggest that very young children must have some other strategy > > to control their speech production, the researchers say. > > > > "As they play music, violinists will listen to the notes they produce to > > ensure they are in tune," explained Ewen MacDonald of the Technical > > University of Denmark. "If they aren't, they will adjust the position of > > their fingers to bring the notes back in tune. When we speak, we do > > something very similar. We subconsciously listen to vowel and consonant > > sounds in our speech to ensure we are producing them correctly. If the > > acoustics of our speech are slightly different from what we intended, then, > > like the violinists, we will adjust the way we speak to correct for these > > slight errors. In our study, we found that four-year-olds monitor their own > > speech in the same way as adults. Surprisingly, two-year-olds do not." > > > > That's despite the fact that infants readily detect small deviations in the > > pronunciation of familiar words and babble in a manner consistent with > > their native language. By the time they turn two, American children have an > > average vocabulary of about 300 words and appear well on their way to > > acquiring the sound structure of their native language. > > > > In the experiment, adults, four-year-olds, and two-year-olds said the word > > "bed" repeatedly while simultaneously hearing themselves say the word > > "bad." (To elicit those utterances from the young children and toddlers, > > the researchers developed a video game in which players help a robot cross > > a virtual playground by saying the robot's 'magic' word "bed.") > > > > "If they repeat this several times, adults spontaneously compensate, > > changing the way they say the vowel," MacDonald said. "Instead of saying > > the word 'bed,' they say something more like the word 'bid.'" > > > > Four-year-olds adjusted their speech, too, the researchers show. The > > two-year-olds, on the other hand, kept right on saying "bed." > > > > MacDonald says the results suggest a need to reconsider assumptions about > > how children make use of auditory feedback. It may be that two-year-olds > > depend on their parents or other people to monitor their speech instead of > > relying on their own voice. MacDonald notes that caregivers often do repeat > > or reflect back to young children what they've heard them say. > > > > While this study involved children with normal speech development, > > MacDonald says they'll be exploring potential applications for > > understanding or addressing delayed and abnormal early speech development. > > > > More information: Online paper: DOI:10.1016/j.cub.2011.11.052 > > > > Provided by Cell Press > > > > > > "Toddlers don't listen to their own voice like adults do." December 22nd, > > 2011. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-12-toddlers-dont-voice-adults.html > > > > Posted by > > Robert Karl Stonjek > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! 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