Rewisk,

I've often also used the mythology of 'eating of the fruit of the Tree of the 
Knowledge of Good and Evil' as a metaphor for the rise of the discriminting 
mind and self which tends to obscure Buddha Nature (which I refer to as Just 
THIS!)

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "rewrisk" <rewrisk@...> wrote:
>
> I have followed the teachings of Yahshua bar Yoseph but I am no christian.
> Christmas Humphries described Zen as if it were the essence of Buddhism. I do 
> not agree with the Buddha's conclusions but have found much of the budhist 
> way to be beneficial to my search for truth.
> 
> It seems to me that when people were making up God's to personify the forces 
> of nature that they felt were important someone realised that it was creative 
> endeavour that was paramount. Therefore the only true God could be the 
> Creator. And if the conscious control of our evolution is viewed as the 
> highest goal, then the conscious creation of life, the Creator of life is the 
> most high.
> 
> Much of biblical scripture is simple ruse.
> Like Zen Koan they are meant to focus the mind on the fact.
> 
> Man is made to be like god = Creative endeavour is the evolutionary directive.
> 
> The son of man is god = A creator being, a being that exists by creative 
> endeavour will evolve from man.
> 
> If you eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you will 
> surely die = a creature that see's beyond it's instincts will misuse the 
> power that comes from such knowedge acting instinctively.
> 
> Prepare yea the way for the coming of the Lord = Transition from 
> instinctively driven animal to autonomous creator.
> 
> According to Hollywood we will be cloning races of slaves to do our labour 
> for us but the world is overflowing with people to do labour.
> What people need is leadership.
> Leadership that can be trusted.
> No person driven by instinct can be trusted.
> A person devoid of instinct will still be selfish, but they wont fight 
> without cause, take more than they need, or discriminate atrbitrarily.
> 
> Could such a person be trusted?
> Are social skills really unselfish or a smarter way of being selfish?
> 
> Creative endeavour has markedly improved the lives of people.
> From the first rudimentry tools this was so.
> The creator was our saviour.
> Today some people blame science for problems that they see.
> Clearly it is misuse of knowledge by ignorant people that is the problem.
> 
> Can creative endeavour save us from ourselves.
> Can a Creator save us.
>




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