Anthony, No, zen predates Buddhism, Siddhartha Buddha and all the other Buddhas. Zen predates everything except perhaps 'sentient-ness'. So maybe the first sentient being (Adam?) could be called the first Buddha, but after that all sentient beings possessed Buddha Nature.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Bill, > Â > Your 'zen' also developed from mahayana Buddhism. Otherwise, where did it > come from? If you say from Christianity, the devil and angel will both be > after you. > Â > anthony > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012, 9:32 > Subject: [Zen] Re: Chan and zen > > > Â > ED, > > My response below assumes by 'chan' and 'zen' you mean 'Chinese Chan > Buddhism' and 'Japanese Zen Buddhism'. Anyway, my response below is limited > to my knowledge of those... > > I only know of Chan from what I've read and the excellent information JMJM > has given us through his posts. From these I do think there is a little > difference between Chinese Chan Buddhism and Japanese Zen Buddhism, but most > of that I see are due to the different cultural wrappings of each. There are > many more parallels and similarities than differences. They are both from the > school of Mahayana Buddhism. If I were to grab any one difference to > emphasize I would say Chan Buddhism is a little more mystical than Japanese > Zen Buddhism but that's about all. > > ...Bill! > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bill and JM, > > > > Do either of you perceive any substantive difference between chan and > > zen? > > > > --ED > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
