Ed,
Good questions; thanks!
Maybe to answer just one point, I'd say that samadhi almost always precedes
awakening.
When samadhi breaks up suddenly -- while seated, or engaged in activity --
awakening happens. Everything stops, and there is vast space and vast intimacy.
Let me recall the literature where samadhi is praised and recommended by zen
masters, and I'll get back to you here. Or the others may do so first.
Samadhi is still not the state of no-mind. Awakening/satori/wu/mu is the state
of no-mind.
But samadhi after awakening must be a slightly (or much) different sort, and I
think the various classes of samadhi that have been noted by great
practitioners have been classified like the entities of Botany, and not just by
the Thervadins or Hinayanists, but by Mahayanists, too!
I don't think that Zen teachers discard the original teachings of Buddhism.
That original corpus is a resource, and one which does not need to be re-worked
by the zen people. I suppose it was done right the first time!
Rushed now to start Lunch. Later,
--Joe
> "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> Mike, Joe and Bill,
>
> In the literature on Zen, is the necessity of 'samadhi' ever emphasized
> by Zen masters? Is samadhi none other than the non-dual state? Is
> samadhi a more mature state of satori?
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