as i age..i have a dreadful attachment to things..i cannot even throw a cardboard box out... once i was good at discarding..now it grips at my heart. .i was a child in the era of the 50's..when we collected everything and it was useful...e.g string. .you who have lived in that era would know...i think the depression had a lot to do with it...and then there is "oh i might be able to use that later"... even to make an artwork. .as a kid we had a rubbish tip walking distance from my home..i loved searching through it..i like looking at things...everything is so amazing. .if i lost my eye sight..which i could have well done in 2001..the stroke is in the area that is linked to eyesight... and the top corner of each eye is damaged. .so i am forever grateful..is that attachment?..sure it is...
detachment feels so cold..like with people..jesus..does one present a detached aura... i am northern european..from the coldest parts of the world..and yes they are detached..and rather cold..if you get my drift..nothing like the ever embracing italian style of personality.. . any thoughts on this folks? what is detachment? what is desire? what is need and what is want? how much of our wants are thrust upon us by society that we are brainwashed to believing we must have it and have it now? the vow of poverty and vow of silence holds much appeal to me now. .we talk too much. .we want too much. .our society is out of balance i question merle Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Aug 30, 2012, at 21:20, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, > > Yes, well, I think so. > > Do you disagree that Desire is for what one does not have, > and Attachment is to what one has? They are just words, I was trying to explain what the largely mental/physiological experiences behind "attachment is the root of suffering." In my experience the suffering comes from not the thought "I wish it were otherwise" but from the belief in that thought, the indignation that this self should experience that! If you want to refine wanting to have the moment be otherwise than it is into a list of two different types of dissatisfaction is fine, but not the idea I was trying to add my two cents to. > Personally, I don't see alternatives, so I ask. > > --Joe > >> Email <brintala@...> wrote: >> >> Attachment to your health, your family, your possessions, your reputation, >> your intellect, your mind, your life. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
