Kristopher,

You keep making excuses for Bill!'s delusions!

Disagreement is not "a form of suffering" unless you are attached to it...

Edgar



On Sep 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> Comfortably stuck in cause and effect, you ignore the sledgehammer!
> 
> It appears to me that Bill! is not denying food is required to maintain a 
> body, that forms appear to maintain forms (no independent origination) - he 
> is denying this assumption of "have to" - this neediness that goes with it. 
> You don't need to live, and ultimately won't  (impermanence). When hungry, 
> eat if you are able. When this is perceived as need (AKA - lack), suffering 
> will arise over your ability to do so, over thoughts of death. Your needs, 
> your sense of lack, your suffering.
> 
> Disagreement itself, a form of suffering. Misunderstanding, a form of 
> recognition. Same.
> 
> KG
> 
> On 9/5/2012 10:14 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> O, for God's sakes Bill!!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> You are certifiable! I've never heard such metaphysical New Age nonsense and 
>> certainly never expected it to come from your lips..... Enlightened people 
>> don't need to eat! Sheesh!
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Bill! wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> Edgar (no longer and Merle),
>>> 
>>> After enlightenment you do not have to eat. You realize food is not 
>>> essential. You may choose to eat, but you don't have to.
>>> 
>>> Illusions do vanish upon realization of Buddha Nature. You may choose to 
>>> bring them back or they may reappear without your choice. But after 
>>> realizing Buddha Nature you know that all dualistic thought is 
>>> fundamentally illusion (not real).
>>> 
>>> ...Bill! 
>>> 
> 
> 
> 

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