Merle, Good advice...
Edgar On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > i have leary's books and allan watts..and i know the work of richard > alpert,,, > > , all this chatter about what is zen and what is not zen and who is "better" > at zen and who is not...is childish banter...the nitty gritty is zen is zen > is zen. > > ..you either get it or you don't... many do not...looking at the wider > world..who is a zen person and they don't even know it > > ...one does not have to sit cross legged and "blow ones mind into some sort > of "state" > > ...realisation from what i have gathered is realisation..it either happens or > it does not.. > > .washing bowls and panting to top of mountains...huh? > > ..i live on a mountain top...i see ..what do i see? what do you see? > > making a thousand rules as to "how to achieve" realisation will that get you > "there".. > > .i find sometimes walking in a crowded supermarket..i get the zen moment..it > comes at in a flash..the realisation...and it's like woh. > > ..now tell me am i off my tree?...we are all "correct" in what we are > expressing in this forum. > ..cos we are all at different stages of enlightenment. > . no one person is more than another. > .we are who we are and at the place we are is where we are now...and it is > the place...and that is that. > > .so let's" move forward" as they say...and help each other rise above the > banter and find the "buddha tree of enlightenment". > .. who's with me? > ..thank you all for your tremendous imput > ..i myself have learnt a great deal..and still am learning. > > .. have i reached the top of the mountain to find there is no mountain? > > peace be with you all. > > merle > > > Bill, > > I attended one of his lectures many years ago. He was originally one of > Timothy Leary's fellow experimenters with LSD. I also met Leary a few times > in San Fran back when... > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:02 AM, William Rintala wrote: > >> >> >> I've read, all that I have been able to find, everything written by Ram Dass >> (born, Richard Alpert), from "Be Here Now" through "The Only Dance There Is" >> to his most recent book "Be Love Now". His work "Be Here Now", 40 years >> ago, was my starting point on the journey that has lead me to this forum. >> His new book rehashes a lot of stuff that was in his earlier works. What's >> new is the last section where he presents the lives of several Hindu Saints. >> In each case the Saint displayed behavior that I think would get most of us >> locked up in a padded cell or admitted to an ICU and put on heavy doses of >> medications. It seems, however, that this crisis was essential for the >> Saint to become fully realized. In reading about them I am reminded of the >> story of Eckhart Tolle's biography where " For the best part of two years in >> the early 1980s a man in his mid-30s would sit on a park bench in Russell >> Square, central London, and in a state of deep bliss watch the world go by." >> Descriptions sound almost as if he had had a schizophrenic break. >> >> My question to the Forum is "is madness a precursor to enlightenment?" >> >> >> Bill not Bill! >> >> >> >> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! >> > > > > >
