Kris,

I didn't say 'do zazen with the goal of, or for the purpose of alleviating 
suffering.  I said if you want to alleviate suffering you must drop 
attachments.  To drop attachments you must quit creating dualities (like 
self/other).  And I suggested zazen was a way to do this - realizing Buddha 
Nature - stopping the creation of duality.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/10/2012 9:04 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > One way to do that is zazen. There are lots of other ways.
> 
> 
> Can't be done. Actions taken against suffering, are themselves forms of 
> suffering as there is attachment to outcome. Intention and expectation.
> 
> Only cessation ends it (by its ceasing to arise), effortlessly. If those 
> other things appear help you realize this, you will do them - so might 
> as well do them with all your heart. It can't hurt, and offers many 
> other benefits.
> 
> KG
>




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