Merle,

I was fearing you would do this...

After asking me to watch a video several times, me asking you for clarification 
of just what I should be looking for with no response, then finally watching 
the video, taking notes and returning a detailed response from the focus I 
ASSUMED interested you - you just walk away from the discussion.

I have now watched the video.  I stand ready to discuss my reply below or any 
of the other points I have noted - or any other points you may have seen in the 
video that I missed.

What more I can do than that I just don't know...

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  forget it...sorry to have involved you!..merle
> 
>   
> *** BIG ERROR ***
> 
> Correct the end of that second sentence to read "I can assure you I will 
> NOT..."   ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Merle,
> > 
> > As I said I did watch the video and even took notes.  I probably now have 
> > over an hour invested in this response and can assure you I will expend 
> > this effort again unless you are more specific in your questions or 
> > requests of me.
> > 
> > I am prepared to comment but I want to show you why I first wanted you to 
> > tell me what your point was - why you wanted me to watch the video and what 
> > specifically did you want me to comment on.
> > 
> > My notes show at least the following topics that might have been of 
> > interest to you:
> > - monks involved in 'uprising' against Chinese rule
> > - news of monk's involvement being suppressed
> > - monks are protesting using self-immolation
> > - monks that self-immolate are mostly young
> > - China blames the Dalai Lama and says he is not discouraging and is 
> > actually encouraging self-immolation
> > - Tibetan Prime Minister discourages immolation but blames China
> > - Tibetan PM wants a 'more open and liberal' Tibet
> > - Most Tibetan areas are 'No-GO' zones for foreign journalists
> > - Australian journalist defied Chinese law and went anyway, were challenged 
> > several times and finally kicked-out
> > - The Tibetan monasteries are said to be the keeper of Tibetan traditions 
> > and culture
> > - A monk said he thought the monks that self-immolated did so because they 
> > were 'unsettled in their hearts'
> > - Some cities have large garrisons of Chinese troops that patrol the streets
> > - Tibetan woman blames Chinese Communist Party for deaths and wants freedom 
> > of speech
> > - There are also reports of monk 'spies' in the employ of the Chinese 
> > government
> > - Tibetans are very poor with no chance of improvement
> > 
> > This is why I don't feel I can 'just watch this and comment', because the 
> > scope is way too large.  I need a smaller scope on which to focus.  I've 
> > ASSUMED that scope is how the Dalai Lama is associated to this video which 
> > highlights the self-immolation:
> > 
> > IMO...
> > 
> > - The Dalai Lama is negligent in his duties as spiritual leader of his 
> > people if he is not actively discouraging self-immolation for any reason.
> > - He is also negligent for not attending to his monks that are said to be 
> > 'unsettled in their hearts'.  That's exactly what their religion is 
> > supposed to address.
> > - He is also negligent in not advising his monks that their role in their 
> > country's culture is to provide spiritual succor to their congregation, not 
> > to lobby for political action.
> > 
> > I want to again point out that I really don't know why you think this is an 
> > appropriate or interesting topic on a forum dedicated to zen.
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Merle,
> > > 
> > > Okay, I watched the first 30 seconds of this 10 minute video and believe 
> > > I've got the gist of it.
> > > 
> > > So, what's your point?  Why did you want me to watch this?
> > > 
> > > ...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   did you watch it BILL!..MERLE
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > Merle,
> > > > 
> > > > Yes!  ...Bill!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > for Bill!
> > > > >  this is happening NOW!
> > > > >  merle
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3607238.htm
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "for one moment our lives met
> > > > > our souls touched"
> > > > > oscar wilde
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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