yes mike..spot on...that is exactly how it is..

.however  the old story still holds a punch..those dam dole bludgers... lazy 
pricks...go get a job.. makes those who are safe and secure so so self 
righteous..i can do it why cannot you?
. the biggest welfare cheats are the queen of england and her hangers on... 
where oh where is the guillotine?...merle


  
Comrade RAF,

I`d say the "social parasites" are very few in number (at least on the lower 
end of the economic scale). People are born into ghettoes and slums thru no 
fault of their own. Like famine, these places exist because of the economic 
system we have inherited. It`s easy for those who have inherited wealth, or who 
have had lucky breaks, to exhort others to `pull themselves up by their 
bootstraps`. Let`s also not forget that governments often squash attempts at 
self sufficiency in communes etc. and a pool of unemployed is great for the 
capitalist class to keep wages low.

Bother Mike

--- On Tue, 11/12/12, R A Fonda <[email protected]> wrote:


>From: R A Fonda
 <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion  and zen
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Tuesday, 11 December, 2012, 14:27
>
>
>  
>On 12/10/2012 9:33 PM, Joe wrote: 
>those old places lived on the handouts and donations of others, already!, 
>themselves!, and they had to be very, very careful about who they let in.
>Very true, but even today, let us imagine merle walking up to a modern 
>American zen center and telling them that her superior vision of compassion 
>obliges them to become homeless shelters, giving needy people "a thousand 
>days" of food and shelter, or ten days, or even one day.
>
>One could hardly ask for a better example of how some people
      confuse "higher consciousness" with their self-righteous
      generosity with other people's money. I have no problem with them 
demonstrating compassion  by giving their assets away ... I wonder how many 
homeless people she has living in HER 'squat'? The problem is that they band 
together to empower politicians to steal from the productive, and the political 
elites then share the loot with their kleptocrat allies or waste it on wars, or 
pay off their client electorates such as the government 'workers' and very 
little gets spent on the needy, many of whom, unfortunately, were social 
parasites rather than people who just had some bad luck. However, government 
mismanagement (including taking so much from the productive workers and 
investors) has now crippled the economy, so that there really ARE a lot of 
people who would LIKE to work, but there just aren't any jobs for them. 
Moreover, there are about the same number of unemployed American citizens as 
there are illegal immigrants, and people who share merle's
 views are SO compassionate toward those illegal immigrants that they don't 
stop to think how cruel it is for American workers to lose their homes because 
'compassion' precludes reserving jobs for our own citizens.
>
>RAF
> 
 

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