Joe,

The process the founders set up has been long subverted....

Edgar



On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Joe wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> Well, you're only half-right.
> 
> I know that there is an ideal. And I know that the real never matches an 
> ideal. And, that's why our (USA) Founders gave us a PROCESS.
> 
> I don't "believe" in an ideal. Yet, we recognize one. And our process exists 
> to help to keep us on track. Our Constitution and our changing body of Laws 
> provide a structure. Even the Constitution itself is susceptible to amendment.
> 
> In practice, there are very large meanderings from the ideal, always. And as 
> the river zigs and zags, there is flood-insurance to give us some confidence 
> that we will emerge from inundation, if we are inundated.
> 
> What is the flood-insurance for you?
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> > 
> > You believe in an idealized and rather naive view of society. The truth is 
> > much different, controlled mainly by special interests for their own 
> > benefit with benefits to the rest of society only sufficient to quell 
> > revolt...
> > 
> > Always has been such to greater or lesser degree and likely always will 
> > be...
> 
> 

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