Edgar,

You wrote:
>Is it true compassion or more a desire to make a profit and become well known?

One of my points in this discussion is that YOU cannot know the motives of 
someone else.  You may certainly speculate on them, but only they know their 
motives - if indeed they have any.

If you have a motive or goal of being compassionate you have already missed the 
mark.  True compassion (like all other things associated with zen practice) are 
done without a motive.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Joe, and Merle,
> 
> More PC nonsense Joe. There are greater population densities in all the slums 
> of the world than in elite wealthy neighborhoods.
> 
> AND they need Buddhist teaching a lot more than the very well off.
> 
> I agree with Merle here. Is it true compassion or more a desire to make a 
> profit and become well known?
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 10, 2012, at 11:04 PM, Joe wrote:
> 
> > Merle,
> > 
> > Please don't let your prejudices blacken your heart toward Subhana 
> > Barzaghi, Roshi.
> > 
> > She lives in Sydney because it's a high population center, and *THERE ARE 
> > PEOPLE* there WHO WANT TO *LEARN*. If she lived at the foot of your hill, 
> > instead, who the hell would she have to teach? Only YOU!? ;-)
> > 
> > You see? Don't be so silly; please.
> > 
> > Trust me. She is a wonderful radical. You are a Tory by comparison. I doubt 
> > you'd last ten seconds under her eye, or in her compassionate care. ;-)
> > 
> > And, ...I know you would *LOVE* her.
> > 
> > Right, not much of her art on her site at present. What happened? Used to 
> > be tons. 
> > 
> > Just Google her full name, and maybe add "art" to the string. You may find 
> > her paintings depicted elsewhere.
> > 
> > Her art is in many books; some of them are Zen books.
> > 
> > She could maybe have taught Mister Kandinsky something about "The Spiritual 
> > in Art". Or, certainly inspired him, at least in his writing, where it 
> > seems to me it would have helped. ;-)
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  i check it out...yes i have googled her before....thank you for your 
> > > interest
> > > 
> > > .not much of her art there...
> > > 
> > >  will i send her a message?..
> > > 
> > > mmm 
> > > 
> > > i am concerned she bases herself in mosman sydney.. very expensive upper 
> > > crust area...
> > > 
> > > i believe we need to reach out to the poor and needy.
> > >  to do the work of buddha and christ..
> > > 
> > > .and following in their paths we discard the need to charge money..
> > > to give is to give freely.
> > > .to love is to love wholeheartedly..
> > > to care is to care without strings attached.
> > > .you give till you can give no more and then you give again.
> > > .that is the path to enlightenment..
> > > let the teacher come to the mountain top.
> > >  then we will see...
> > > have a wise and precious day.. for you will not see this day again. 
> > 
> >
>



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