Chris,

Gosh, someone actually agrees with something I said here!

You are an 'enlightened being' after all!
:-)

Best,
Edgar



On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:

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> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, R A Fonda <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 12/12/2012 11:48 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
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>> Is this the system you think would be better than our tax based system?
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> You seem to be under the misapprehension that because I foresee something I 
> must 'want' all aspects of it.
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> You wrote of some better system than democracy:
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> > IS democracy really better than all the alternatives? I submit that it is 
> > not
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> I took your email to mean that you preferred the foreseen anarchy system 
> following the collapse was a sample alternative.  So if not anarchy, then 
> what system is better than democracy?
>> I live in California
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> So, if you can't already recognize a disaster-in-progress, there is no point 
> in my trying to edify you.
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> It is always too soon to say if things are going well or badly.  
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> A comment on disasters in California - the earthquakes are less fuss than the 
> hurricanes I got on the east coast of the US - you just prep and then 
> hopefully it will turn out ok, but there's no advance warning.  No "tropical 
> depression forming off of the blah blah islands."  No unneeded evacuations.  
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> The fact that supposedly 'awakened beings' can't apprehend the inevitable 
> results of current trends and policy (indeed, argue for hair-of-the-dog 
> cures) falsifies their pretensions to enlightenment.
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> Not sure if you are referring to me here, but I am not an awakened being 
> except in the ordinary sense, I have an aha moment that I was not paying 
> attention many times a day (some days only 3 times, some days more often).  
> Over and over, I return to the present.  
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> And I am not "enlightened" in any sense.  Just watch me interacting with my 
> spouse or children, or listen to my thoughts during a meeting displaying 
> particularly obtuse statements.  
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> Even to the extent that I find non-dual experience to be a thing I think we 
> all have access to, it has nothing to do with "apprehending results" - it is 
> just here, just now.  The simplest householder free to sweep their floor with 
> not a thought in their head knows it; each time you see your kids ice cream 
> falling from the cone and you catch it with no gap no thought just seeing and 
> moving, you know this ground.  Not intellection - tho I side with Edgar in 
> that perceiving the contents of the mind is no different than perceiving the 
> contents of the eyes or the contents of the touch (where Bill! seems to draw 
> a line between those two).  
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> Thanks,
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> --Chris
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> +1-301-270-6524
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