do i see and hear the word: selection...

what nazi germany lives again?...

you will die because you are not worthy of being a human being..

tut tut tut..

who will be the judge and who will be the jury as to who lives and who does 
not...

who will vote and who will not

.tut tut...

merle


  
On 12/12/2012 5:31 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: 
  The system hasn't been overturned - you can't evaluate the Constitution as a 
system without looking at what happened, how it worked out. 
I am saying it started out a representative republic; it is now
      socialism becoming a communist tyranny, so it is different. BTW,
      communism MUST be tyranny, as only through tyranny can
      confiscation (for redistribution) be empowered. You are saying
      that it became what it is through its inherent process of
      amendment, which is not untrue, but beside the point, and only
      makes my other point, that no system can be devised for optimal
      governance of an overcrowded techno-civilization. 


I would not want to be born into a time where one had to be a land-owning male 
to vote.
I suppose that was the only way they could think of to keep the have-not voters 
from picking the pockets of the productive, and to ensure that only people with 
a real investment in the future of the country could determine who made policy. 
By comparison, letting the social dependents vote for whoever promises to give 
them the most in handouts is just nuts.And allowing women to vote just ensures 
that the government is turned into a nanny-state.


Surely in the US reproduction rates are lower
But, alas, the most intelligent and provident have the fewest children and 
subsidize the reproduction of the low IQ, improvident, and dependent.


we are losing the winnowing effects of all the childhood diseases 
That is among the least important of dysgenic influences, but I am surprised 
that you even recognize it as problematic that we are supporting the 
reproduction of people who could not survive in a state of nature. Actually, I 
am ambivalent about allowing our genome to be sculpted by disease, and would be 
pleased to see a lot of diseases eradicated. 


that is natural selection operating on the current genome in the current 
environment
True, but what I understand, and you wont accept, is that this niche 
environment is evanescent, and when it collapses, remnant humans will need 
those old, natural adaptations. The funny thing about it is that neither of us 
cares: you because you wont believe that collapse is inevitable, and myself 
because I think a die-off inevitable and re-establishment of natural selection 
to be a good thing. 

It is unlikely that I will answer any further comments you make on the subjects 
covered in this post.




 

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