Hi Joe,
My idea is this, and probably a mess in everyones' eyes I'm sure:
1. Matter does not exist.
2. We, as individuals, don't exist.
3. Nothing actually exists except a stream of conciousness
4. A chunk of concrete, my dog, or my wife,myself, are all only illusions of
the all pervading consciousness, attempting to wake and realise itself.
5. Because of the above, there can be no judgement of right or wrong
6. War crimes are impossible- how can you commit a crime against yourself?
Can't rape or steal from yourself. Can't kill yourself if all is one.
7. Karma must be bullshit
Cheers,
Scott (Bummy)
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> That raises the natural question even despite, as you say, "the way in which
> everything comes into being", of: how is it possible to violate (break) the
> Precepts?
>
> There are ten Grave precepts which all practitioners accept (who choose to do
> so when given the opportunity to study them and uphold them), and many more
> precepts than that (numbering over one hundred) which monastics of both sexes
> take (women take more). The Grave Precepts is/are the list that begins with
> "No Killing".
>
> To re-phrase the question, then -- if you or anyone will take it up -- or to
> phrase a new one, half in your words, and half in mine:
>
> "Considering the way in which everything comes into being, how is it possible
> to violate (break) the Precepts?"
>
> --Joe
>
> PS (I have a two- or three-word answer I'll share, afterwards; Not to worry,
> the words are multi-syllabic).
>
>
> > Scott Williams wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,Actually my writing was a little screwed up. I didn't actually mean
> > that it has no place in a zen discussion, but I meant that because of the
> > way in which everything thing comes into being, can there actually be
> > anything considered good/bad? That's just feeding into duality. Didnt mean
> > there's anything wrong with any discussion.Cheers.Scott
>
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