Joe and Merle, I think 'near-death' experience is pretty much the norm for those not practicing zen.
When you begin to practice zen you are soon introduced to a 'near-life' experience. The more you practice the more you peel away the 'near' until you finally do actually have a 'real-life' experience. THAT's what I'm talking about... ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > Merle, > > I've had even worse dreams, probably. Haven't you? > > What's special about "near-death"?: Is it all to sell Paperbacks? > > I'll let you do the research. I can't read all that stuff. > > Saving my eyes for Stargazing. > > And Painting. > > If any of this relates to Zen in your mind, or Buddhism more specifically, it > may help to recall that "Causes and Conditions" is indeed a useful concept > and working-hypothesis about how things happen, and as regards the *residue* > that there is, as -- and after -- things happen. > > It's not a laughing matter; I do not even snigger. > > But I give no special significance to "near-death" dreams, versus waking > consciousness, when it comes to following the trail of Causes and Conditions. > > I'm not a religious Buddhist, but my nose is tuned to Experience; and, > secondarily, to Logic. > > If I had to wait for a near-death dream to awaken me, I'd be a dead man. > > Don't wait for anything. Practice now. > > The Tibetan Book of the Dead gives this same advice that I give. > > I didn't become a Bodhisattva in order to deceive you. > > --Joe > > > Merle Lester wrote: > > > > well..i put it this way he writes that in near death experiences that he > > had he saw his life and all the people  he had been unkind too and it was > > thrown back on him... merle > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
