I can't cry I'm an innocent party in all this because I'm guilty of casting a doubt over her integrity before learning all the facts, but I think it's not appropriate on a Zen forum (or anywhere else for that matter) to treat a respected Roshi as we have done. I'd really like to drop this now.
Mike --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Post us some photos of her and i'll tell you if she's worth it! > :-) > > Edgar > > > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > NONE of us have any idea what the diamond lady is or is not.. > > > > until we meet her and listen to her as a teacher and head shrink... > > > > we have no idea... > > let it be at rest... > > take it easy.. > > lighten up.. > > merle.. > > p.s. maybe i need to join the laughing buddha yahoo group..is there such a > > group? > > > > > > Joe, > > > > Well, that's a relief and does shed a somewhat different light on it. > > Subhana has certainly put in the hours as a professional counsellor to > > charge what the hell she likes (I think many less economically able people > > would be able to claim a govt. rebate, too). As I said in an earlier post, > > I don't see such activities as teaching the Dharma, so it's no problem for > > me. My original concern still stands tho, that making a living solely from > > teaching the Dharma leads to exploitation and its corruption (I've even > > heard of some temples where they've stopped giving permission for students > > to record the talks due to copyright issues). > > > > Mike > > > > PS Let's not be too harsh on Merle because with no contact with Zen > > centres/teachers there would probably be a blur between the teacher's role > > there and their professional role as a helper. And she has certainly raised > > an important issue (although I feel personally bad that Subhana was lumped > > in with any issues I have with the unethical charging of money for the > > teaching of the Dharma). > > > > PPS A gassho to her for her work and a humble apology from me. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > See, the psychiatric services would not have interested me. > > > > > > Since you made several people here think that such fees pertained to > > > Dharma teaching, I hope that you and your confederates in this charade > > > will express sincere contrition soon. > > > > > > You've disgraced us, yourself, and this Forum, Merle. > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > scroll down joe.. > > > > > > > > you'll see the fees [snip] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
