Hi Bill, What is the fundamental importance of the premise "All beings have Buddha Nature" if one is not aware of it?
There is Buddha Nature, but some people are aware of it and some don't. So, what does this 'embedded' Buddha Nature implies? It doesn't feel right, feels like duality also, but I don't know how to describe it more clearly. Siska -----Original Message----- From: "Bill!" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:31:42 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Zen] Fw: peek a boo ... Siska, In case Edgar is having a 'zen moment' and fails to respond I, as co-moderator, will cover this one. IMO... - All sentient beings have Buddha Nature. - The oft abused term 'enlightenment' means you are aware of Buddha Nature to some degree or other So...an 'unenlightened being' would be either a being that is not sentient or a sentient being who is not aware of Buddha Nature. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote: > > Edgar, > > If I remember correctly, you were the one who told me, when I first joined > this group to learn more about Zen, that all beings have Buddha nature, > already enlightened in the first place. > > Now you are saying there are unenlightened beings.... > > I don't get it.... > > Siska > -----Original Message----- > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:10:28 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fw: peek a boo ... > > Siska, > > Because they ruined the perfect naturally produced forms of the stones by > cementing them all together in a mindless unenlightened mish mash. Did you > see Merle's photo? > > Of course in the deepest sense everything is reality therefore everything is > Zen, but this artificial concoction is the reality of illusion, produced by > illusion, by unenlightened beings, and thus is Zen only when seen as NOT > being zen! > > Edgar > > > > On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, siska_cen@... wrote: > > > Doesn't Zen include everything, including the so called act of dumb > > Chinese? Why is this one Zenless? > > > > Siska > > > > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:49:00 -0500 > > To: <[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fw: peek a boo ... > > > > > > Here is where Zenless dumb Chinese absolutely ruin the beautiful natural > > shapes of these stones by pasting them together in a hodge podge.... > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> <IMG_6116.jpg> > >> > >> IMG_6116 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
