Zendervish,

It does sound like an interesting book.  I especially liked the description of 
'glimpses' of Buddha Nature before kensho/satori.  Of course those 'glimpses' 
only became significant AFTER kensho/satori because it was then the memory of 
them were put into context.  I think we've all had those.  I know I certainly 
believe (remember) I have.

...Bill!  

--- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@...> wrote:
>
> Mike and Bill,
> 
> Further in my reading of Kim's book. The encounter (experience as Bill says) 
> with impermanence and emptiness of form is, or appears to be the so-called 
> `mystical' realization for Dogen. There are glimpses of it early for Dogen, 
> like his mother's funeral, seeing the incense rise in the air.
> 
> Now, outside of the book, perhaps emptiness is the preferable word we could 
> use here, since it figures greatly in Chan, Rinzai, as well as Soto Zen. 
> There is no usage are exact equivalent word `mystical' in Zen Buddhism. Form 
> is emptiness and emptiness is exactly form is perhaps the best?
> 
> Kim's biography is a romantic portrayal of a seminal figure who he believes 
> needs to be known more in the West. Also, Dogen has become important to post 
> modern philosophers as well, through the Kyoto School. 
> 
> Comments
> 
> /\
> 
> zendervish
>




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