Suresh,
And, in any case, the way of Zen practice is to practice "without any 'gaining
idea' ".
*Not* to have any conception about what awakening might be like.
Not even to practice for awakening, but simply and diligently to practice.
That is our way.
And that is the way it remains, if it is to be Zen practice.
The Zen school is the school with the least chatter about its aims and ends.
The reason for this is so that people will be sure to see for themselves, not
to satisfy themselves instead with reports by others, or with self-help
formulae by paperback writers, to remain lodged in consciousness like a brick,
or a mote in the eye, or rehearsed in consciousness or spat out of the mouth as
recurring circumstances recur... ..
Those other kinds of satisfaction are death and burial, while Zen awakening (to
our true nature, and the experience of emptiness) is a transformation, a
shedding of old clothes, and a dissolution of blinders to the world, and of
illusions.
(and KEEP practicing, or those things may come back to bind you again in a few
months)
It is a re-gaining of health, and a shedding of weight, a sudden combustion of
blockages and habits. It is mostly physical, and in no way approachable by
thought or words.
Well... don't take my word for it.
Practice is available!
Learn from a good source, practice with others, and take it home.
As always, Wishes!,
--Joe
> SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> Do you think I own any words? Do you think there can be any 'my' opinion?
>
> I own nothing no words and hence no opinion.
>
> Below are questions of other forum members to this my answers are .......
>
> Q: "If self-realization is an awareness, is it an experience?"
>
> A: Self-realization is not an experience. If it is an experience it will
> be momentary, it will be there some time and it may not be there after
> some time. No experiences are permanent in nature. So it cannot be
> self.
>
> Awareness is self. That is all. <snip>
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