Edgar,

Ha, ha, very funny.  Such humor won't serve you there.

To follow a conversation, and a thread, one follows, one reads.

If you're leading all the time, which it seems you try to do, all you see is 
your own misapprehensions, and call them those of others.  Such is the clear 
signature and sign of the continuation of the habits of a life of delusion.  
But it's not a dead end.  You can practice, and find that such childish things 
fall away.  And I hope you will, and that you do!  For your sake and your 
associates'.

You do not show that you know true compassion; it's because you have a program 
for compassion.  You say that you know what it is, and claim it consists in 
telling people they are wrong about something.  You define it.  But, true 
compassion ARISES.  It takes care of the present need spontaneously, 
seamlessly, by inextricable cooperation.  There are not "two".  It does not 
depend on thought, on your memory, or your stick-to-it-iveness to your 
"program-" sheet.  Compassion is a result of awakening, and it is a marvel.  It 
always and only flies by the seat of the pants, and not by a check-list.

True compassion is not your tsunami deck-sweeping.  You demonstrate repeatedly 
that you personally only know how, and only care to, sweep the deck according 
to your leading idea, not in accord with circumstances.  That's where you fail 
in our life of the Buddha Way.  And why conversation is not in your lexicon as 
of yet.

As I noted, practice can save you from this compulsion of the 
programmed-self-ego.  I would not mislead you about this.  Many of us have been 
there and done that, and your case of need is indeed classic.  You are one who 
could benefit greatly.  Now, it may not be easy.

Find a good teacher.

Time to begin, before time becomes short, and while the body is still healthy.

--Joe

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> 
> What arrogance!
> 
> One does not follow. One leads...
> 
> True compassion is telling someone when they are wrong, not coddling 
> delusion...




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