Hi Joe agree with most you say. You state 'Some others who are not
working in the Zen way think that we must first use everything, in order
to awaken' - I have never heard of this.
Everything I have read says that you should just sit in zazen and let it
take it's course, then awakenment will come ,either through grace or via
an enlightened teacher capable or interested in pushing you over the
edge (another model I guess).
I wonder how many think that Samadhi is enlightenment?
Bob
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