Edgar, I'm glad you gave you definition of reason below and explained how you use the term. It's pretty much the same as I use it with the following exceptions:
- Human reason does not REFLECT the World of Forms. Human reason CREATES the World of Forms. - Using reason may or may not 'be Zen' (done as a part of zen practice). Like any other activity it all depends on how it's done. If it's done while creating duality and with attachment then it's not zen practice. It it's done holistically and without attachment then it could be and in fact probably is. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Merle, > > Merle asked a good question to explain what I mean by reason, logic and > rationality. > > I use these in a very general sense to mean using mind to correct understand > and engage with the actual logical structure of the world of forms. This > covers the everything that people do in their daily lives if they do it > correct in world. It can be as simple as knowing you have to hold a nail > straight and hit it on the head with a hammer to drive, to understanding the > quantum koan. > > If you as a computational being don't compute your understandings and actions > in the world correctly you don't function in the world correctly. To the > extent you do function correctly you are being reasonable, logical and > rational. > > No abstruse hidden meaning. It's simple common sense. It's correctly > understanding and engaging with what I call 'the logic of things'. > > In Merle's case it's knowing how to plant a flower correctly or that she has > to dip a brush in paint before she can put a color on paper. That's using the > rational mind..... > > Everyone does it all the time better or worse. To deny it is denying ZEN! > > Even Buddha has to put his spoon into his bowl to eat. That's using the logic > of things... > > Edgar > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
