Suresh, You don't know how glad I was to get your post below. You finally wrote things that mean something to me.
What you call the 'thinker' I call the 'discriminating mind' or the 'intellect'. What you call the 'seer' I call 'Buddha Nature' or 'Just THIS!'. All the rest of your description below fits right in and is very compatible with zen practice. Hooray! ...Bill! --- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: > > Dear Bill, > > The one who wrote the reply is `Thinker', he is reactive, he respond > to all stimulus from outside and inside. Or in Eckhart Tolle's words, > the continuous voice in your head, which commands you to do this or > that is the `thinker'. > > The seer is seer. When thoughts or thinker is absent it is felt. Pure > awareness is seer, the one who sees all traffic of mind and present > surrounding is seer. > > The difficult part is when you realize that `thinker' is an outside > agent, then only the seer realizes his seeing ability, else he merge > with thinker. In zen words empty mind is seer. > > When a baby is born, his mind is empty or in the state of pure > awareness, then the world wanted to use the baby, it start pouring out > information in to it, the information poured into the mind now claims > himself as body and spirit since baby has no power to resist, it obeys > to the world pressure through the input. > > Now the input being external agency in the baby operating it. The baby > really doesn't know what to do on his own, but forced to follow the > world. This input is what `ego' or `thinker'. Once this is seen > clearly spirit realizes himself as pure awareness. > > > This is the beginning, to realize who we really are. We are not > thinker, but seer. But this should not be again knowledge or an input > to you. Each one need to realize this on their own. > > > Best wishes > Suresh > > > > -- > Thanks and best regards > J.Suresh > New No.3, Old No.7, > Chamiers road - 1st Lane, > Alwarpet, > Chennai - 600018 > Ph: 044 42030947 > Mobile: 91 9884071738 > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
