Bill,

First I didn't say it was OK. I said it should not be criminalized. Personally 
I'm in favor of stable monogamous relationships with a 'soul mate' - if you can 
find one in this wasteland of modern western women.

I'd guess you might understand what I'm saying there since you have a younger 
non-Western wife which is much preferable I'd agree...

As to extreme age limits. None at the older end. At the youngest end it depends 
on when children are actually able to say yes and understand what that means. 
It also depends on 'what' is being said yes to and if that is understood. There 
is a vast difference between a casual affectionate touch and full intercourse.

Again this is not behavior I'm promoting. I'm making the case it should not be 
criminalized...

And obviously my consent definition does not include anything physically or 
psychologically injurious to a child even if the child said yes without 
understanding the consequences.

Edgar



On May 25, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> So if you think sex between someone 18 and someone 15 is okay as long as 
> they're both consenting; what about 18 and 12? Or 25 and 8? Or 15 and 2?
> 
> Where do you draw the line? I think you would draw one. Florida has drawn it 
> at 18. You might not like that but that's the line there.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Merle,
> > 
> > My way is compassion and freedom for everyone.
> > 
> > Your way is fascism and repression and imposition of YOUR way on everyone 
> > else...
> > 
> > My way is Zen, your's is a female Hitler.
> > 
> > Please, the next one of those funny pictures of yourself you send out from 
> > time to time please add a little Hitler mustache!
> > :-)
> > 
> > Edgar
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 25, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > edgar..you don't care let alone give a shit...merle
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bill,
> > > 
> > > Do you think I'm an uneducated idiot that I don't know that already?
> > > 
> > > On second thought don't answer that!
> > > :-)
> > > 
> > > Edgar
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On May 25, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> Edgar,
> > >> 
> > >> The laws in the USA are changing to support pretty much what you've 
> > >> suggested with one small but very important caveat: the sex has to be 
> > >> between consenting ADULTS. Each state in the USA has an 'age of consent' 
> > >> and it varies from 16 to 18. In Florida where this incident has occurred 
> > >> it is 18.
> > >> 
> > >> So...in Florida a person has to be 18 to consent to sex.
> > >> 
> > >> ...Bill! 
> > >> 
> > >> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Tim,
> > >> > 
> > >> > This is not a one person lesbian issue. There are many people of all 
> > >> > ages and all sexes that are having their lives destroyed by this type 
> > >> > of law.
> > >> > 
> > >> > The law should allow sex between anyone of any age of any sex so long 
> > >> > as it is CONSENSUAL. That's the only just criterion.
> > >> > 
> > >> > And with regards Zen that is the proper compassionate approach...
> > >> > 
> > >> > Edgar
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > On May 25, 2013, at 12:49 AM, Tim wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> > > Do people here know about the Free Kate Campaign? If not see 
> > >> > > www.freekate.net 
> > >> > > Kaitlyn Hunt, 18, who made international headlines after being 
> > >> > > charged with felonies for her same-sex relationship with a 
> > >> > > 15-year-old peer, has refused a plea deal offered by the state 
> > >> > > attorney's office, according to CBS affiliate WPEC. Under the state 
> > >> > > attorney's deal, Hunt would have been labeled a sex offender and 
> > >> > > placed on two years' house arrest. 
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > Go to http://www.change.org/freekate to sign the petition. 280,500+ 
> > >> > > signed by 5/25. FB page has 49,600 members. It goes on in every 
> > >> > > school and only gets prosecuted when the parents hate the older one. 
> > >> > > The law was meant for predators and not lovers. The punishment is a 
> > >> > > lifetime sentence. Thanks.
> > >> > > 
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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