Edgar,

Unfortunately I couldn't see any picture but I could read the text.

I just can't reconcile the things you say with the quote contained within the 
text:

"The shining jade pond is a combination metaphor: the still water is the 
enlightened mind, revealed when the wind (of ignorance) dies and the waves 
(modes of mind) cease. The water then becomes a bright mirror, reflecting 
things as they really are."

To me that is EXACTLY what I'm saying when I talk about illusions and thoughts. 
 The wind of ignorance is illusions.  The waves (modes of mind) are thoughts.  
When they cease Buddha Nature is revealed - the mirror reflecting things 
(experiencing) as they really are.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Shizan was an activist Zen master who established orphanages as well as 
> meditation halls. During the latter part of this long life, Shizan never 
> handled money even when he traveled, relying instead on the natural charity 
> of human beings to get by. Shizan produced Zen art until his death at age one 
> hundred. (John Stevens, in Zenga. Brushstrokes of Enlightenment, New Orleans 
> Museum of Art 1990, p. 78.)
> Representing the full moon the brushed circle (enso) is a place holder for 
> the first part of the famous poem "My heart is like the autumn moon". The 
> second line of the poem, which is written next to the circle reads: "Fresh 
> and pure as a jade pond"
> "The moon and the pond each carry both general and Buddhist associations. In 
> general usage, the full moon (it is always full in Chinese poetry, unless 
> otherwise specified) connotes family unity and returning home, due to its 
> perfectly round shape and its associations with holidays on the lunar 
> calendar like the New Year and the Mid-autumn Moon Festival. The spring of 
> pure water in landscape poetry carries philosophical overtones, as the source 
> of a stream is metaphorically the source of Dao. Theses meanings still 
> resonate in Buddhist usage, but are subtly transformed. The moon and pond 
> form a polarity with a multivalent enlightenment message. (…) The shining 
> jade pond is a combination metaphor: the still water is the enlightened mind, 
> revealed when the wind (of ignorance) dies and the waves (modes of mind) 
> cease. The water then becomes a bright mirror, reflecting things as they 
> really are." (Charles Egan: Clouds Thick, Whereabouts Unknown: Poems by Zen 
> Monks of China. New York: Columbia University Press, 2010, p. 39.)
>



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