Edgar, I don't know who the 'moron' is who made this up, but the 'moron' who documented it was Mumon Ekai, former abbot of Kudoku-Hoin'yuji Zen Temple. He included it as Case #5 in his koan collection THE GATELESS GATE which was fist published in 1228.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Mike, > > Yes, but that would be using your rational mind to keep you out of trouble > which is a No No in comic book Zen... > > If the comic book Zen guy is hanging by his teeth from the top of a tree he > deserves to die. He certainly will never be enlightened! > > The moron that made this one up should give up Zen and try to get a job with > Marvel Comics.... > :-) > > Edgar > > > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:05 AM, uerusuboyo@... wrote: > > > Why even climb the tree in the first place? > > > > Mike > > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...>; > > To: <[email protected]>; > > Subject: Re: [Zen] to agree or not to agree > > Sent: Tue, Jun 11, 2013 10:49:16 AM > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > Don't be a moron. Hang by your hands instead of your teeth! > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> You are on the top of a tree, hanging on by your teeth. Someone comes by > >> and asks if they should get a teacher. If.you answer you will fall. If > >> you do not answer, they will not find the way. What do you do? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> --Chris > >> 301-270-6524 > >> On Jun 10, 2013 8:35 PM, "Merle Lester" <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> agreement is not necessarily awakening...merle > >> > >> Merle, > >> > >> That would be immaterial; but, go ahead and see; I don't mind. > >> > >> You pay attention for both of us -- you and me!, i.e. -- please. > >> > >> On this score, there is no doubt anywhere, ...and it's a big universe. > >> > >> See if Bill! agrees, and Mike, and Chris. > >> > >> And Subhana, Roshi. And John Tarrant Roshi. In your neck of the woods. > >> Etc. > >> > >> --Joe > >> > >> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > > >> > joe... > >> > > >> > right joe..i get the picture! > >> > > >> > ..does edgar agree?..merle > >> > > >> > Merle, > >> > > >> > Don't bother continuing this. > >> > > >> > Continue with your Practice. See a Teacher as you are able. Everything > >> > depends on that. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
