Chris, I never heard such stuff. Dunno where you may be coming from.
It may be just a geographic or cultural proclivity, or merely and importantly personal. I hope you and your chosen teacher will take these things up, if they are important in (Zen) practice. Best, --Joe > Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware > experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a non-problem > to me. > > I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize > everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. > http://zeninamoment.com/ or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 > http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi > > People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can acquire, > rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own > tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is extremely > non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these > tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; it > is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. > > In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most profound > moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a > chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction. > > Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" might > help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"? I find > it likely enough to be worth discussing. ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
