Bill!,

I thought you might like it.

BTW, you may have read other "Ch'an" texts:

For example, if you've read THE RECORD OF LIN CHI (the LIN CHI LU), you've read 
a Ch'an text.  The "records" of all the masters of the Golden Age of Ch'an are 
of course "Ch'an" texts.

THE PLATFORM SUTRA OF THE SIXTH PATRIARCH is a Ch'an text.

Likewise, Seng Ts'an's FAITH IN MIND; and, Yung Chia's SOMG OF ENLIGHTENMENT.

Wu-Men's k'ung-an collection, WU-MEN KUAN is also a Chan text.  So is THE BLUE 
CLIFF RECORD.  And THE BOOK OF SERENITY.  "Etc."

It's just an historical accident in the West that D.T. Suzuki popularized Ch'an 
as Zen.  Ch'an is simply Zen, and vice versa.  There are minor cultural nuances 
in ways of practicing it, depending in which country it finds itself.  And in 
the West, new nuances are evidently beginning to be bred.  And they are only 
nuances, if the teachers are true, and good.

--Joe

> "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this.  I have never read any Ch'an texts.
> 
> I of course liked this one...Bill!
> 
> "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> >
> > Group,
> > 
> > Continuing the thread begun the other day, I'll tag-on the original post, 
> > and I herewith add the conversation between Master and Novice that begins 
> > the text of this ancient Chinese Ch'an writing, THE CEASING OF NOTIONS, 
> > from the Dunhuang Caves.

[snip]



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