Woops... (I'm starting a trend of responding to my own
posts :)
I
guess, I meant, Agnes, not Anders. Sorry for my
confusion.
Rod Scholl
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Scholl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 1:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Zen] Agitation
From: Rod Scholl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 1:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Zen] Agitation
Anders,
Each
one of our postings might be our last posting... puulease.
You
need to work on your exit strategy, because you seem to want to be a stage
performer. But you were supposed to leave us wanting more.
Perhaps you would like to be asked to
stay?
Please
Stay. Please STAY. Don't go. STAY.
Rod Scholl
-----Original Message-----
From: Agnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Agitation
From: Agnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zen] Agitation
Anders,
This might be my last posting to this forum. But for me, study and
practice Zen in daily life is to learn how to free our mind, ease and search
deeper in our heart, but not to regulate one's mind, either ourselves or
others. I truly believe the more we want to regulate others, the more we
will first regulate ourselves and put our minds in a smaller box,
which will drag us more further apart from freedom and humanity
Oh, just a tiny detail about Tao Te Ching which I hope you won't mind that
I combine that part here:
Tao Te Ching actually is divided in two parts. Lao Tze first wrote
the Te Ching (the moral part starting from chapter 38) and then completed the
Tao Ching (the enlightenment part).
Agnes
Anders Honore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Al,
Do you really believe the verse below? If you wrote it yourself, then I
must ask why you are subjecting yourself to a Dharma that is unfounded
by your own experience of the here and now.
The verse is all well and good for someone happily content to make the
Way into a prison of awareness and clarity - In fact, for those who can
do so consistently, they form a strong basis for the application of
practise, if perhaps somewhat lacking in wisdom. I don't see such a
temper in you nor particular affinity for it. I may be completely
offtrack of course, wouldn't be the first time, but if you think
regulating the mind is gonna help you cross over birth and death, then
how is that different from common missionary work, beating people with
sticks over old dogma?
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:39:25 -0400, "AC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
>
> Agitation Within
> robs one of reflection
> and clarity of vision.
> In this state of mind,
> it is of course impossible
> to act with presence of mind.
> The right thing then,
> is to keep still
> until balance is regained.
>
> One can only do this
> when he himself
> is not affected by the turbulence,
> although its disastrous effects
> are already visible in those around him.
> If he withdraws in time
> he remains free of error.
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