Sebastian Ortiz Duran Gochicoa wrote:
> LOL
> 
>  
> 
> Fudo, AC, Anjin: 

> 
> It's obvious these people are "fragile", why keep doing something that's obviously 
> hurting them? These people are leaving the group. You're never gonna hear from them 
> again! Why bother!? 

Dear Sebastian,

***chuckle*** these people cannot be as fragile as the pretend to be and 
have survived to an age of majority. Many of them whine about how rough 
it is and then pretend to leave and lurk about reading responses hoping 
to find someone who will be sad they are gone. It is a pathetic attempt 
at some sort of external validation. They need it so badly they come on 
and pretend to be great zen thinkers, and when their wisdom is 
questioned they pout. They threaten to take their ball and go home..the 
problem is it isn't their ball. They wind up stomping around in circles 
hoping someone will come in and save them. They cannot even manage to 
unsubscribe to the dang list...come on! no one is that pathetic in real 
life for long.

If your delusional "spiritual" path cannot stand a rough and tumble 
email list, how is it going to fare in a hurricane, typhoon, or a 
earthquake?..how about a war, famine, or violent crime? If your way does 
not support you when the going gets rough it is better you quit it now 
than go somewhere truly dangerous and find out there it is useless to you.

The day someone can show me how to click a button and make a hurricane 
go away, or stop the accident that is about to happen to my family, or 
stop the bullet that is exiting the barrel of the gun that is pointed at 
my chest, then I will agree that this list has a chance of being just as 
harmful or dangerous as real life. Until then I will let the people who 
pretend to be fragile go. It is better they leave than continue 
pretending that putting their fingers in their ears and chanting "I 
can't hear you, I can't hear you" makes the storm go away...or anything 
better.  These tempests in a teapot are not really threatening to 
anyone. To pretend they are is stretching credulity beyond all reason. 
If this is too rough..then get something, anything that works for you in 
the real world, because baby this is a piece of cake compared to a real 
love relationship, a real loss of a real job, a real death in a real 
family, or a real natural disaster. If if does not work for you here, it 
won't work for you much of anywhere.

I do not consider it compassionate to coddle a whiner, to take care of 
someone pretending to be an invalid, or to let a delusion of having an 
anchor in a storm let someone wander into a real storm armed with only a 
delusion.

Real zen works in a real storm. Tranquility in a storm is tranquility 
indeed, tranquility in a safe harbor is only the illusion of tranquility.
I am not about coddling somebody's illusion of tranquility.

I have worked with enough differently abled people in my life to have a 
pretty good idea when someone is really hindered, or only pretending to be.

As Jody often points out, a person who really cannot see does not want 
to be treated like they are not able. Someone who wants to be treated 
like they are not able has another agenda entirely. Whether they can see 
  in real life or not.


Even a perfect storm on an email list is only a tempest in a teapot.

To even think this should be compared to a person being bullied at work, 
or harassed by thugs on the way home from school is pure excrement of 
the male of the bovine species. No matter what the credentials of the 
academic who preaches from his ivory tower are.

Be Well

Fudo


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