Hello Chris,

I never heard of 'enlightenment', and so even tho I may have tasted 
an apple, I didn't know the apple had a name.  The internet web is 
what brought me to other paths.  A teacher/friend is needed, but the 
teacher will only point at the moon for so long - it is all they can 
do, Only YOU will know the fruits of seeing the moon.  This 
reflection is from "Nirvana in a Nutshell" 157 Zen Reflections by
Scott Shaw.  This is from #130

"You can witness the occurrences of the physical world around you.
You can watch the actions of other human beings.
You can even sit back and observe you own Life Time pass by,
waiting for it to be over.
Or, you can embrace consciousness and become an active participant 
of this divine melodrama.

Does running away to a cave promise enlightenment?
Does hiding from the world mean you will meet Nirvana?
Does living in denial that you are a human being with the frailties
of human existence promise illumination?

LET GO of all the nonsensical beliefs propogated by those who do
not know.

Know and you know.
Be and you are."

I myself am still in kindergarten that is why I am here, and that is 
why I joined the Sangha in our towne :)

Sincerely,
Jacqueline


> Actually if you think about it enlightenment doesn't exist for 
> someone who hasn't had it. Just like the taste of an apple is 
> inconceivable to someone who's never tried one. Not all roads lead 
to 
> Rome so in order to get "enlightened" its good to consider 
> thouroughly what the path to it is and what if any roadblocks one 
> might encounter on the way. Does anyone have a specific idea of 
what 
> enlightenment is? 
> 
> Chris 
> > 






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