Hi Carlos,
I think it helps if we try and keep perspective on our
attitude while practising. The only reason we do
Buddhist practice is to eliminate suffering. If the
suffering was not experienced, there would be
absoutely no need to engage in practice.
The only way to eliminate suffering is to experience
freedom. Awakening, or elinghtenment, is complete
freedom.
Freedom from what? Freedom from any possiblity of
pain, be it gruesome physical pain, or mental anguish,
etc.
This freedom is non-dual, meaning that it is
indeterminate. It cannot be said what this freedom
entails.
Chandrakirti said: "The Buddha didn't quarell with the
world." This means that we can safely leave the world
as it is (chopping wood, carrying water). Freedom does
not mean freedom from chopping wood and carrying
water. It doesn't mean freedom from 'mountains are
mountains, rivers are rivers', nor does it mean
freedom from 'mountains are not mountains, rivers are
not rivers'.
Alex
--- carlos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For my, knowing is total ,it is not having an
> understanding.
> If we look at the zen said "before enlightenment
> rivers are rivers
> and mountains are mountains, during enlightenment
> rivers are not
> rivers and mountains are not mountains, and after
> enlightenment
> rivers are again rivers and mountains are again
> mountains" I
> understand this as saying this is real life the one
> life that one
> has to live even if one has the knowledge that all
> ideas are merely
> unreasonable constructs.
> I thought that the source act or lives through its
> creations like a
> dream so every being act as itself even though it is
> the dreamer
> watching through the eyes and perceiving through the
> senses.
> So I suppose after one is awakened one changes the
> attitude toward
> life because one knows but still have to carry water
> and chop wood.
> It is interesting what you say, I have never thought
> of the source
> as acting, so when one punch somebody else eye is
> actually punching
> one own eye, so who is carrying the consequences of
> the act if there
> is only one?
> This looks kind of messy, others opinions are
> needed.
>
> Metta
> Carlos
>
>
>
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