Dear Alex, I suppose Carlos is the one that need to clarify what he was referring to.
Do you believe that striving to control your thoughts will free you of expectations, worries and obsessions? Thanks, Diana --- Alex Bunard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Carlos was referring to the fool archetype > that has not let go of expectations, that worries a > lot and is passionatelly obsessed. > > What, there is no such archetype? > > Alex > > --- Diana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Carlos and all Sangha, > > > > Interestingly enough, the fool is an archetype > that > > is > > not necessarily negative. The fool has let go of > > expectations, stays open to the moment, does not > > worry > > or obsess about anything. > > > > Become aware of thoughts, look at this thing we > call > > mind, come to know the nature of thoughts, and > they > > will take care of themselves. > > > > Take care, > > Diana > > > > --- carlos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi,I just read this: > > > Irrigators regulate the rivers; fletchers > > straighten > > > the arrow > > > shaft; carpenters shape the wood; the wise > control > > > themselves. > > > Dhammapada > > > > > > It says "the wise control themselves" meaning > > there > > > is a difference > > > between a fool controlling himself and a wise > > doing > > > the same. > > > > > > It is my understanding that until one > experiences > > > what one is, one > > > is a fool, if that fool is Buddhist, he/she is > > > trying to control > > > himself/herself and his/her mind to certain > > patterns > > > that could help > > > to obtain that experience. > > > It does not mean that after the experience, one > is > > > wise but at least > > > one knows how one is and how the mind operates, > > so > > > he/she knows > > > what is going after, while the one without the > > > experience doesn't. > > > > > > I am trying to be whatever I think I am or I > would > > > like to be using > > > self-control since I was born, now that I am a > > > Buddhist I am trying > > > to control my mind thoughts too. > > > > > > Metta > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > ===== > No karma was produced during the composition of this > letter > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Would you Help a Child in need? It�s easier than you think. Click Here to meet a Child you can help. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kx_54C/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
