Alex wrote: > > OK, I think we need to qualify what is meant by > 'enlightenment'? > > Are we talking about Buddhist enlightenment, or just > any old enlightenment? > > Because, if you're referring to any old enlightenment, > then I agree with you 100%. > > However, if you're honing in on the Buddhist > enlightenment, then living true is not going to cut > it. Yes, living true is a necessary prerequisite, and > without it no one stands a chance, but it is not a > sufficient cause. Complete mastery of the Buddhadharma > is required before one can reach the 'far shore'. > > I know that people frown upon this, because they're > looking for an easy way out, but, sorry to rain on > your parade guys, there's no such thing as an easy way > out (at least not here in Canada; I'm not sure about > the land of Disneyworld and Hollywood, though). > > Alex
What is the point of discouraging people to go for it?, how anyone knows how far is on the road?. I thought that the job of the Bodhisattva was to help all beings to cross to the other shore. What one become once the mastery of the Buddhadharma is complete? if such a thing exist. What is Buddhist enlightenment? Are there any other kind of enlightenment? Is Buddha nature in all beings or just in Buddhist ones? Metta Carlos ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
