I have heard this teaching as "I vow not to talk about others".  Sometimes when 
we are 
gossiping we don't call it that because we are not saying "bad" things, but 
this can be 
thinly veiled. I learned this from a great practitoner who was in a group with 
me, and every 
time somebody mentioned somebody's name who wasn't there, he refused to 
participate 
in the conversation. Just calmly shut up. He was right, even though somebody 
was trying 
to be "helpful", their comments were often to point out shortcomings or 
question what 
that person was doing, or somehow promote their own agenda.  

If you live in the southern US, you are familiar with the phrase "Bless his 
heart", which is a 
backhanded way of saying, "He's such a pathetic screwup", while telling 
themselves they 
are simply being kind and sympathetic. 

Bottom line, if you find a person's name coming out of your mouth, ask yourself 
if it is 
truly necessary. I have also heard a Zen teaching that says we only need to 
actually say one 
out of ten things that we think we should say. 

Thanks, and enjoy the day,
Diana

--- In [email protected], "amazing63" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Harvey Hilbert 
> 
> 
> With palms together,
> 
> Good Morning Sangha,
> 
> Thank you for opening this small email and receiving its message.
> 
> Today I will address the 6th Grave Precept: I vow not to talk about the 
> faults of others.
> 
> This is a vow against gossip.  It recognizes the power of words to do harm in 
> casual 
conversation.  This is a challenging precept as we all seem to value the 
communion we 
share with others through discussion regarding our friends and family. So, on 
the one 
hand, we have the value of communion with others, and on the other hand, the 
destructive 
power of words when we talk about the faults of those we know and love. 
> 
> We might rationalize that it is important to share information about 
> another's faults. 
And sometimes this is true. But we must be very careful here, and behave with 
deliberation 
and careful consideration. We might say we are acting to protect our friends, 
say in the 
case that we discover one of our friends has lied or acted in some other 
unwholesome 
way; still to pass this along does damage to all concerned as we are 
diminishing the 
possibility of that person's potential, and at the same time, we are 
demonstrating our own 
willingness to harm. 
> 
> There are times when we should "blow the whistle" but these are rare in point 
> of fact 
and are not generally what we trhink of with regard to this precept.  This 
precept is about 
the damage caused by idle gossip about the faults of others. 
> 
> When we speak, we should try to perceive the benefits of our words. Deepening 
> our 
relationships with others should not come at the personal cost of others. A 
loving 
community is a communty that can trust.  It is one that holds each member to be 
sacred. 
Careless talk violates and diminishes this sacredness.
> 
> I suggest that we each bring the power of our mindfullness to this precept in 
> our 
everyday life. How often do we speak of the faults of others?  How can we 
reduce or 
eliminate this talk?  Increasing our present moment awareness of the words that 
come out 
of our mouths is an excellent beginning.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> 
> 
> Rev. Harvey Sodaiho Hilbert, Ph.D.
> 
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