He will not agree with this interpretation, because he is following the theravada tradion of buddhism.
> > >This claim, outrageous as it may appear, can be verified in the > > > Zen practice. (Neutral Milk's posting) Bikkhu Samahita would probably not do Zen practice at all. In general, his intention when posting his daily mails might be to remind us about the roots of (theravada) buddhism. While his last post was indeed worthwile, I am still worrying about the real intention of these mails. When asking him, he is simply denying any participation in any ongoing discussion. Some mailinglists at Yahoo have been virtually killed by posting these comments only. See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/What_Buddha_Said/messages or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buddha-Direct/messages as examples. In these mailing lists he is virtually the only (posting) participant. Until recently - I thought this ZenForum is a discussion list. Just asking everybody to keep that in mind. See also post no 8889 from Bill Smart from Tue Jul 26, 2005, who pointed his finger in the same direction. ---snip--- I can guarantee you that whatever Bhikkhu Samahita's intentions are they do not include wanting to enter into any meaningful discussions about Zen. If he does what I've seen him do to other sites he will post rheams and rheams of pre-formatted Buddhist scripture clogging up the site. I only hope he does not drive everyone out of this forum the way he did on MSN's Buddhist Dharma Forum. ---snip--- Kind greetings. Mike P.S: Anybody who love to read these sutras could also do some one of the following options: A) daily reading of http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ B) Subscribe to one of the mailinglists, mentioned above P.S.2. "Friendship is the Greatest ..." Friendship does in my view imply to hear what others have to say. An exchange is implied. Bikkhu Samahita, please keep that in mind or otherwise you will end up as a daily buddhist text robot. --- In [email protected], "Spider63" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you think? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Zen] Input 'I'-dentification... > > > > It will be interesting to see if Bhikkhu Samahita agrees with this > > interpretation. > > > > Ian > > > > >This is a very good post. The Buddha taught that all sense perceptions > > >are nothing but an error, a miscalculation on the part of the fooled > > >mind. > > > > > >This claim, outrageous as it may appear, can be verified in the Zen > > >practice. What Zen practice reveals to us is that all the sense of > > >space, time and change, that all of us tend to go through during our > > >tenure here on earth, is merely like apparitions in a dream. > > > > > >This is exactly what your post is talking about. I've really enjoyed > > >seeing it articulated that way. > > > > > >Keep up the good work, and your good intentions too! > > > > > > > > >On 8/23/05, Bhikkhu Samahita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Friends: > > > > > > > > Overwhelmed, fooled & deceived by simple Sensing! > > > > > > > > Touched by contact, while blinded by ignorance, the unlearned and > > > > untrained ordinary person conceives this false & fatal assumption: > > > > 'By my eye, ear, nose, tongue and body I clearly sense this & that! > > > > Therefore: "I am"! I perceive this & that: Therefore "Do I Exist".! > > > > I feel this & that: Therefore: "These feelings are mine and me".....! > > > > I experience this & that: Therefore: "These experiences I am"......!' > > > > > > > > Then he proliferates this self-deception even further by breeding: > > > > "I am this eye, ear, nose, tongue, body and mind right here & now!" > > > > "I always was & have been this eye, ear, nose, tongue, body & mind!" > > > > "In the future, I will be this eye, ear, nose, tongue, body and > mind!" > > > > "I am this form, feeling, perception, construction & consciousness!" > > > > "I was this form, feeling, perception, construction & consciousness!" > > > > "I will be form, feeling, perception, construction & consciousness!" > > > > Thereby consolidating the false & constructed notion of a stable Ego! > > > > > > > > Finally he externalizes this non-existent entity 'Me' by comparing > it: > > > > "I am equal to this and that...", and "I am better than this and > that...", > > > > "I am worse than this and that...", thereby creating first egoism, > then > > > > pride and arrogance, and moreover detrimental feeling of > inferiority... > > > > > > > > Clinging to this hypothetical 'I'-idea, which he mistakes for real, > he > > > > becomes desperate, when whatever it is, he identifies with, changes, > > > > decays, becomes otherwise, fades away and finally disappears... > > > > He is terrified by the thought: "It is 'I' & 'Me' who changes, > decays, > > > > becomes otherwise, fades away and finally disappears..." So big is > the > > > > power of this unnoticed idea, that it produces fear, anxiety & > horror!!! > > > > > > > > There arises no such great panic, when one understands it as it > really is: > > > > The six inputs by the eye, ear, nose, tongue, body and mind are not > mine, > > > > this is not what I am, this neither is nor belongs to my or any other > > > self! > > > > This form, feeling, perception, construction & consciousness is not > mine, > > > > this is not what I am, this neither is nor belongs to my or any other > > > self!!! > > > > > > > > Fundamentally releasing from an invisible prison is such > understanding... > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > > > PS: Please include the word Samahita in any comment, since then > > > > will my automatic mail filters pick it up and I will see it & > respond!! > > > > Bhikkhu Samahita, Sri Lanka. > > > > > > > > Friendship is the Greatest ... > > > > Let there be Calm & Free Bliss !!! > > > > > > > > http://www.What-Buddha-Said.org/ > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buddha-Direct > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/What_Buddha_Said > > > > Dhamma-Questions sent to my email are quite Welcome. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi > > > > Yahoo! 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