I find the same. When I am bored, there seems to be a direct relationship to a wavering focus... and the opposite happens as well.. mindful immersion accompanies intense flowing streams of consiousness.. good luck,
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:05 am, [email protected] wrote: > > There are 2 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Stagnant Practice > From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2. Re: Stagnant Practice > From: --Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:46:37 -0600 > From: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Stagnant Practice > > Hi Tony > > In my experience, boredom is a result of not being very awake. You > might > try bringing more of a sharpened awareness to your practice, put more > energy into being present, see what happens. > > Ian > > >> Hi all! >> >> I am hoping someone may be able to help here. As I have stated in >> previous posts I come from a Tibetan tradition to Zen. VERY different >> practices, in fact poles apart. However this is why I am attracted to >> the simplicity of Zazen as opposed to a myriad of complex >> visualisations and mantras etc... However, of late when practicing >> sitting I am finding myself becomging really, really bored! Sounds >> terrible to admit after so many years of study. My mind wants to >> analyze Emptiness (as I have been used to) and to just sit counting >> the breath or doing Shikontaza seems a complete waste of time. >> >> Is this common? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Tony... > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:32:27 -0800 (PST) > From: --Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Stagnant Practice > > I get bored too, but after a while, being bored > becomes interesting. Happens by itself, not through > thinking. > > The key is tenacity. There is a "learning curve" with > meditation, Zen perhaps more so than others. > > Zen seems simple on the surface, but there's quite a > bit underneath. Just not quite what one might expect. > > Best of luck in your practice. > > > --Michael > > > > > --- yogavajra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> I am hoping someone may be able to help here. As I > have stated in >> previous posts I come from a Tibetan tradition to > Zen. VERY different >> practices, in fact poles apart. However this is why > I am attracted to >> the simplicity of Zazen as opposed to a myriad of > complex >> visualisations and mantras etc... However, of late > when practicing >> sitting I am finding myself becomging really, really > bored! Sounds >> terrible to admit after so many years of study. My > mind wants to >> analyze Emptiness (as I have been used to) and to > just sit counting >> the breath or doing Shikontaza seems a complete > waste of time. >> >> Is this common? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Tony... > > > > > __________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It's not the height of the waves, but the motion of the ocean.. " - Melville ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
