I have read the administration manual, browsed this forum, the faqs, the wiki, 
google, .. but I don't seem to find any good source of how things in zenoss 
actually work. I find how to use the user-interface and where to find all 
properties, but not the explanations about the properties or how things 
actually work, only the simple things.

I am test-driving zenoss (the VM appliance) since it looks very promissing, but 
I can't get it to work in a way that we would be able to depend on it:

For example: I added a (SLES) Linux server to the /Server/Cmd class and 
configured the SSH access and ZenPlugin.rpm (There is no SNMP running on the 
server.). And did a few Device modelings. 

During the second modeling it finds a http service being UP and a smtp service 
being DOWN (since there is absolutly no smtp service running on the server). 
Why is this SMTP service found while it is not there?
No problem, I think, I tell Zenoss to not monitor the smtp service and the 
ipservice dissapears.

I also want to monitor the ArcServe Agent running on the server, so I add a new 
service to the system. Not finding any decent documentation about all the 
properties I have to fill in (what are those service keys?) , using the mysql 
ipservice as an example:
Name: BABagent  
Monitor: True
Port: 6051      
Description: Brightstor ArcServe Backup Agent
Service Keys: BABagent, tcp_06051, udp_06051

Next I wanted to add that service to my server, and found out that there is no 
posibility to add services manualy due to a bug in the UI. After some 
forum-browsing I found a patch and then I was able to add the service as a tcp 
ipservice.
It was displayed as being UP. Everything succesfull I thought.
After a while I noticed that the service BABagent was gone again. Seems it gets 
removed during automatic remodeling. Which looks to me as unwanted behaviour? I 
read on this forum that every six hours a remoddeling happens and services not 
being up (and not locked) at that moment get removed ??!! In other words, if an 
important service fails right before such a remodel, it gets removed and there 
is no critical error triggered???

Anyway, I re-added it a few times and it gets removed every time during a 
modeling. Then I read on the forums about enabling the port-scan collector 
plugin, so I did that, and now indeed the BABagent is automaticaly found and 
added to the device. Not as a tcp but as a udp ipservice. Again I thought, no 
problem..as long as it gets monitored..
Out of curiousity I removed the port-scan plugin again en did another 
remodeling. This time the BABagent ipservice is kept.. So I was happy..

Then I shut down the BABagent on the server itself to check the response time 
of zenoss.. 
One hour later.. BABagent is still up and running according to zenoss. Netstat 
on the server shows me that port 6051 is not used.. 
Why doesn't zenoss detect the service being down?

I did the same for the http service and within a few second zenoss detects 
it..why not with the BABagent ipservice?

Is zenoss dependable? I really like its approach, it's features and promisses, 
and would really like to use it, but I need a stable and dependable system to 
convince my boss.

Please tell me that I did things wrong, that zenoss did the right things.
If more (debugging) information is needed to be able to give me an explenation, 
please ask me, I will try to provide it.




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