Yeah, markmail.org is cool. I didn't even realise Gmane's search was
even imperfect until reading this and testing it again just now.

On 26 September 2010 14:11, Robin Palotai <[email protected]> wrote:
>  Maybe it could be submitted for indexing to markmail.org - it has a
> very handy UI for searching about past topics. I use it for an other
> development list for search and it is always a pleasure.
>
> Robin
>
> 2010.09.26. 12:35 keltezéssel, Pieter Hintjens írta:
>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Stefan Sandberg
>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> What exactly IS the missing feature Google would provide, other than (what
>>> appears to me)that you'd like it
>>> better integrated into how -you- do things, probably because you already use
>>> Google's products regularly?
>> I think the question is "what's the problem here".  Having spoken with
>> Daniel a little offline about this, it's not about any particular
>> preference for Google groups but about difficulties in using the
>> current email structures.
>>
>> These difficulties are well known to all of us, I think.  Most of us
>> accept them but still, they cause pain to newcomers.
>>
>> The biggest problem is what I call Email is Not a Database, the
>> difficulty of finding relevant material.  People have tried to create
>> 'topic pages' on the wiki but that went nowhere.
>>
>> A better search function might help, but still, it's rather hard to
>> know what to look for until you know the material.  Catch-22.
>>
>> I've worked extensively with Wikidot in the past and it can solve this
>> problem _very_ well since it gives easy tools to separate transient
>> from persistent material, but has the big disadvantage of breaking the
>> "reply by email" workflow that we love so much.
>>
>> Mato proposed some other platforms but those would require a wholesale
>> move off this list manager onto something new.
>>
>> My own view is that the list works well, and that anyone who feels
>> pushed to collect material in more accessible forms will do so.
>> Essentially this is a development list and discussions are by default
>> transient.
>>
>> We may want to make it clear that the list is for development
>> discussions rather than first-line help.  First line help might work a
>> lot better with a more traditional forum model where 90% of material
>> is persistent.
>>
>> -Pieter
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