On 23/04/14 09:52, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:33 AM, techbird <[email protected]> wrote:
The main article focuses on using http - atom/json with a pull model, for
Internet scale collaboration .
It's a simple and widely-used approach, yet very poor. It basically
enforces the thin-client fat-server model, where clients hang off
specific servers. I don't think it's acceptable in 2014 to propose
HTTP-style pull as a basis. Indeed, large-scale service providers are
working very hard to escape that (websockets, HTTP2, SPDY, etc.)
A different, still simple model, is to treat every tasks as an
event-driven actor that can receive messages from any source, be it
another thread in the same process, or a box on the other side of the
world. In this model, tasks do not poll or pull; they receive messages
asynchronously from any number of sources.
On top of that you can build pub-sub, push-pull, request-reply etc. as
multi-message protocols. You can even recreate RESTful semantics quite
simply.
-Pieter
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Can I pause for a second to say thank you for your knowledge Pieter.
So if I understand correctly - micro-services receive asynchronous
messages (i.e. http 202) - the message can be processed using various
patterns using push-pull, sub pub across what ever processes/workers are
required. Therefore holistically messages are pushed (POST'd) through a
http pipe, which is serviced asynchronously by 0MQ channels/patterns.
Is that right? or have I mis-understood?
I do have a secondary question. With Martin's PULL model - subscription
services (pub sub) have low temporal coupling. Therefore they are able
to play 'message catchup' with a provider if running slow or they are
off line for a bit (say due to a network problem). This capability
comes from the service's ability to ask for events since a certain point
in time (request parameter). I guess this is a little like event
sourcing. How would that subscription pattern translate in 0MQ?
Gareth.
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