Sounds good. Shall we make these pilots for the new release process?

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Luca Boccassi <luca.bocca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> During the Brussels meetup/hackaday I backported Kevin's Github+Travis
> release to zerom4-1 and zeromq4-x.
>
> We have quite a few bug fixes queued up there since the last stable
> releases a year ago - shall we do a bugfix release for both? Those would
> be 4.1.5 and 4.0.8.
>
> Just to be sure, I've verified with abi-compliance-checker [1] that
> there was no ABI breakage with the respective stable versions.
>
> Kind regards,
> Luca Boccassi
>
> [1] https://github.com/lvc/abi-compliance-checker
>
> On Mon, 2016-05-09 at 13:36 +0200, Kevin Sapper wrote:
>> The deployment has a couple of constraints (see .travis.yml -> deploy: on:
>> <constraints>).
>> One constraint is the repo MUST be "zeromq/libzmq". If we port this to
>> zeromq4-x and zeromq4-1
>> we need to adjust this or remove this constraint altogether.
>>
>> 2016-05-09 13:04 GMT+02:00 Luca Boccassi <luca.bocca...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Awesome, thanks!
>> >
>> > So now if we port this to zeromq4-x and zeromq4-1, we'll just have to
>> > push the tags corresponding to the last commit of each previous release,
>> > right? It might make moving all downloadable to Github a much easier
>> > process.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2016-05-09 at 11:45 +0200, Kevin Sapper wrote:
>> > > On libzmq master it's now possible to let travis automatically deploy
>> > > artifacts. The deployment is triggered if a new tag is created. I've
>> > > created a test release and tag[1] to see if it is working properly. The
>> > > files that are available under this release have been deploy by travis.
>> > >
>> > > [1] https://github.com/zeromq/libzmq/releases/tag/v4.0.2-test
>> > >
>> > > 2016-05-04 11:34 GMT+02:00 Luca Boccassi <luca.bocca...@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 05:46 +0200, Michal Vyskocil wrote:
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Just for a curiosity - the content of packaging/debian collide with
>> > > > > standard Debian packaging? It is intentionally there to not clash, so
>> > > > maybe
>> > > > > solve this problem. Either by not generating them, either by defying
>> > > > safer
>> > > > > location.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's not a problem with the location, it's just that the Debian source
>> > > > package will end up having packaging stuff duplicated and with
>> > different
>> > > > content: 2 changelogs, 2 control files, etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > But again this is exactly why make dist exists - having that generated
>> > > > packaging code in the repository is useful, no need to remove it.
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 18:26 +0200, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
>> > > > > > One note, 'make dist' always fails the first few times because
>> > files
>> > > > > > are missing. Keep this in mind. The git tarball has the great
>> > > > > > advantage of never failing. (And since it makes tarballs look like
>> > git
>> > > > > > clones it gives the same experience to all developers.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'd vote for killing 'make dist'. It also makes us dependent on
>> > > > autotools.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Uhm I just tried fresh clones of both libzmq and zeromq4-1,
>> > > > > and ./autogen.sh; ./configure; make dist works just fine.
>> > > > > It was broken a while ago, but I fixed it, and now the CI tests that
>> > it
>> > > > > works.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Besides, IMHO there are 2 big problems with just tarring up the git
>> > > > > repo.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > First of all, it doesn't remove the dependency, it just moves it
>> > down to
>> > > > > the user. Which means we'll start getting bug reports that are due to
>> > > > > the different versions of autotools or cmake used (and there are a
>> > lot!
>> > > > > ).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > But most importantly, the tarball will ship stuff that shouldn't be
>> > > > > shipped, which is a huge problem for distribution packagers. For
>> > > > > example, in CZMQ, the packaging bit would be shipped. That would
>> > break
>> > > > > many things in the package build process, and the distro maintainer
>> > (ie:
>> > > > > me :-) ) would have to take the shipped tarball and sanitize it,
>> > nuking
>> > > > > all extraneous bits. This should not be necessary! That's exactly the
>> > > > > reason "make dist" exists.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Pieter Hintjens <p...@imatix.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Luca Boccassi <
>> > > > luca.bocca...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Is any of the API I marked as draft actually ready for release?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Even so, leave it 'draft' until it's actually being used.
>> > Changing
>> > > > > > > minds is expensive otherwise.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> So should we use branches instead for bugfix releases?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > All fixes to master. In the extraordinary case where a bugfix
>> > release
>> > > > > > > cannot be made from master, a branch could work. We never needed
>> > this
>> > > > > > > in e.g. CZMQ. I doubt we'd need it in libzmq. I absolutely
>> > recommend
>> > > > > > > against branches unless it's the only option. (And I think we've
>> > > > > > > designed ourselves space to never need that option.)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Isn't it possible to do the github release thing with the
>> > result of
>> > > > > > >> "make dist"? I think I've read somewhere that you can use the
>> > > > result of
>> > > > > > >> CI builds.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Seems Kevin has solved this, almost :)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -Pieter
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