Hi Gyorgy,

thanks for your mail!

Uniform sending could be implemented by providing a free send function which is 
overloaded for both message_t and multipart_t. There cannot be a member 
function of socket_t that accepts a multipart_t since the latter is in the 
upper layer (i.e. zmq_addon.hpp). If you would like to contribute this, this 
would be very welcome.

poller_t does not require casting a socket_t to the bare void * in the current 
master version. I am not sure when this was the case.

Best wishes
Simon

Von: zeromq-dev [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von 
Gyorgy Szekely
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2018 21:10
An: ZeroMQ development list <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [zeromq-dev] cppzmq revival and RFC on design goals and supported 
platforms

Hi Simon,
This is great news! We're using cppzmq in a message broker and an accompanying 
communication library for 2 years now.

I fully agree with the declared goals. libzmq has a simple and concise API with 
object oriented mindset. It works well on its own, but cppzmq makes it a whole 
lot easier. What's particularly good about it:
- type safety and RAII: it's very straigtforward to think in classes that 
properly clean-up resources at destruction
- higher level functions: multipart messages are really nice, though the API 
is/was a bit inconsistent (socket.send(msg) vs, msg.send(socket))
- header only, it's very easy to use. Header only libraries usually mean 
template heavy monsters, but fortunately not in this case

What I personally really like is it's a thin wrapper and doesn't want to be 
more than libzmq. Methods usually map 1-to-1 to libzmq calls, there's no hidden 
trickery and the documentation at 
api.zeromq.org<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.zeromq.org&data=02%7C01%7Csimon.giesecke%40btc-ag.com%7Cc5bdddee6a524b60525408d5c0e0ca1f%7Cc064efb078954eebb406a40bc377bc7d%7C0%7C0%7C636626994076373759&sdata=XIYdEl3DMBXkTf7THghuQJGCbVCdsD7Wh%2Bjk8qXWDLU%3D&reserved=0>
 is fully relevant.

I haven't checked the recent updates (yet), but I found a few strange bits 
while working with cppzmq. Like the above mentioned sending inconsistency, or 
having to cast the socket to void* to use it in a pollset. Apart from that I 
completely agree with the direction. This is how a thin C++ wrapper should look 
like for a good base C API.

BTW, we're using the lib on Ubuntu16.04 64bit / G++ 5.3, no issues so far.

Regards,
  Gyorgy

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:07 PM, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

Pawel Kurdybacha (kurdybacha) and me (sigiesec) have recently started to 
"revive" cppzmq 
(https://github.com/zeromq/cppzmq<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fzeromq%2Fcppzmq&data=02%7C01%7Csimon.giesecke%40btc-ag.com%7Cc5bdddee6a524b60525408d5c0e0ca1f%7Cc064efb078954eebb406a40bc377bc7d%7C0%7C0%7C636626994076373759&sdata=Lb1zRKVGyijgPeUUDV1K4XUhKAwoMYd%2B0LB8v8YoZMY%3D&reserved=0>),
 the light-weight C++ wrapper around libzmq. We added CI for Windows/MSVC, 
Linux and MacOS, implemented tests, cleaned up the CMake infrastructure, 
formatted the source code consistently and added some overview documentation.

If you are using cppzmq or are interested in using it, we encourage you to have 
a look at the recent changes.

One particular point we would like to seek feedback on are the design goals, 
which have recently been documented for the first time. I tried to extrapolate 
them from the actual design, and from the reasons we chose to use cppzmq in 
comparison to other alternatives. These are part of the 
https://github.com/zeromq/cppzmq/blob/master/README.md<https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fzeromq%2Fcppzmq%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2FREADME.md&data=02%7C01%7Csimon.giesecke%40btc-ag.com%7Cc5bdddee6a524b60525408d5c0e0ca1f%7Cc064efb078954eebb406a40bc377bc7d%7C0%7C0%7C636626994076530008&sdata=qtIHTc0dYPpYWaDAgJO3kbLSrRRnLgf%2Fz8%2BK9hTY3oM%3D&reserved=0>
 file:

* cppzmq maps the libzmq C API to C++ concepts. In particular:
   * it is type-safe (the libzmq C API exposes various class-like concepts as 
void*)
   * it provides exception-based error handling (the libzmq C API provides 
errno-based error handling)
   * it provides RAII-style classes that automate resource management (the 
libzmq C API requires the user to take care to free resources explicitly)
* cppzmq is a light-weight, header-only binding. You only need to include the 
header file zmq.hpp (and maybe zmq_addon.hpp) to use it.
* zmq.hpp is meant to contain direct mappings of the abstractions provided by 
the libzmq C API, while zmq_addon.hpp provides additional higher-level 
abstractions.

We would like to here from you if you agree with these design goals. If you 
have any opposing views, proposals for improvement or extension of the design 
goals, please share them on the mailing list or by sending a PR.

Another part of the README is a section on the supported platforms. Please 
review this section, in particular if you do not use MacOS, Linux or 
Windows/MSVC with a recent compiler. If you successfully use a different 
platform, please send a PR to include this in the list of "Additional platforms 
that are known to work". Support for non-C++11 compilers is already partial 
only, and might be removed completely, unless there are users that still 
require such support.

Of course, you are also invited to contribute extensions, new features, 
cleanup, further tests, etc. to cppzmq.

Best regards
Simon

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