I thought the following event announcement for 4th of June, 2009, may be of 
interest to those residing in Delhi.


Dear Anand,

First of all allow me to congratulate you for having moved from Chennai to 
Delhi. It would give you better exposure, us better chance to interact. I wish 
I were in Delhi on 4th of June. I would have surely come to the discussion. 
However, unfortunately, right now I am in New York, coming back on 10th of 
June. If you like, you can include the following input from me in the 
publication of the proceedings of the seminar if and when you do publish the 
same in the future.

Do we want “caste annihilation” or “caste equalization”?

Dr. Ambedkar may have said: “Caste has killed public spirit. Caste has 
destroyed the sense of public charity. Caste has made public opinion 
impossible… Virtue has become caste-ridden and morality has become 
caste-bound.” --B.R. Ambedkar, in Annihilation of Caste, 1936

However, the book itself has more to do with annihilation of Brahminical 
religion (Hinduism) than “Annihilation of caste” itself. In fact, the title 
happens to have been chosen by an organization called, “Jaati todo, samaaj 
jodo,” which had organized a seminar under the title of “annihilation of 
caste.” The book itself is nothing but the lecture that Ambedkar had written 
for presentation at the said seminar. It was mostly a critique of Hindu 
religion. 

My personal feeling is that what we really need is “equalization of caste 
rather than “annihilation of caste.” This is because if the lower castes were 
not identified with their caste identity, it will be difficult for them to 
partake their due share of power at the expense of extra power that the upper 
castes have accumulated during the time when upper castes have been overtly as 
well as covertly preferred caste for assignment of all kinds of power. If the 
lower castes do not have the caste ID, how can they claim any share of power? 
In the absence of group ID, all will be treated simply as individuals and in 
the race of individuals the upper castes would be assured of being way ahead. 
Any time its (caste’s) disclosure happens to be to the advantage of the upper 
castes, they can disclose it, otherwise, officially there will be no 
caste/class ID. 

We must understand that annihilation of a concept is not an easy thing to do, 
as it exists primarily in the mind. We cannot get into one’s mind and verify 
whether a concept is dead or not. What we can ensure is equalizing groups based 
on the concept. Even though originally the concept might have been invented for 
the sake of exploitation of some people under a given identity, we not only 
can, but need to, take help of the same IDs to ensure empowerment of various 
caste groups equitably. Once that (equalizing) is done, the ID itself may 
gradually wither away. Even if it does not wither away, at least it would not 
be being used for the purpose of exploitation. 

Caste ID is like union ID. Without unions, it is easy to exploit individuals, 
particularly if there are abundant of people of a particular skill or no skill 
and they have no work. On the other hand, when they are in groups, it is more 
difficult for them to exploit them. They will be able to go on strike and 
support each other during hard times. As I have already said, it may have been 
invented for the sake of exploitation, it can now be profitably used towards 
better purposes, including equalization of grpups. 

One can say that it (caste) can and is being used towards bad purposes too, 
like enabling higher castes in helping each other at the expense of those the 
lower castes. However, as long as we have democracy moderating the power of 
groups, the disadvantaged groups will have their democratic power giving them 
needed added boost towards equalization. 

What about the case when middle class people are in majority and they are 
discriminating against the lower class/caste? Even in that case caste 
categorization can be used to help them because the middle class should know 
that it is the existence of the lower paid lowest class/caste that pulls down 
their own wage structures too. If the lowest wage is pushed or pulled higher 
up, the wage structure of the middle class/caste too will go up.

Thus no matter how we look at the issue of “caste,” what we really need is 
“equalization of caste” rather than “annihilation of caste.”

Regards,
Dr. Satinath Choudhary



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4 June 2009: Public Discussion on "Internationalising Caste", New Delhi (fwd)
Monday, 1 June, 2009 4:30 AM
From: "Shiva Shankar" <[email protected]>
To: undisclosed-recipients


CACIM <http://www.cacim.net/> and Navayana <http://navayana.org/> invite you to 
a public discussion on

INTERNATIONALISING CASTE - EVERYBODY'S ISSUE? OR NOBODY'S ISSUE?

*June 4, Thursday, 2009 * 3.30 - 6.30 pm, India Social Institute 
<http://www.isidelhi.org.in/>, New Delhi

Caste has killed public spirit. Caste has destroyed the sense of public 
charity. Caste has made public opinion impossible… Virtue has become 
caste-ridden and morality has become caste-bound. --B.R. Ambedkar, in 
Annihilation of Caste, 1936

The efforts to internationalise the issue of caste-based discrimination against 
the 260 million Dalits in South Asia and treat it on a par with racial 
discrimination, which had received a boost in 2001 at the United Nations World 
Conference Against Racism (WCAR) held in Durban, suffered a serious setback at 
the Durban Review Conference held recently (April 20-24, 2009) in Geneva. While 
in 2001, WCAR had discussed caste euphemistically as 'discrimination based on 
work and descent', in line with terminology devised by the UN’s Committee on 
the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD), the outcome document of the 
Durban Review Conference (DRC) has evaded even an allusion to caste.

More than a month after the Geneva event, there's almost no public debate in 
India on the issue. Dalits have tried raising the issue of caste with various 
UN forums for over three decades now. The first effort at lobbying with the UN 
resulted in Dr Laxmi Berwa, an expatriate Dalit from the United States, 
presenting a testimony before the UN Sub-Commission on Human Rights in Geneva 
on 31 August 1982.

What is shocking has been the near-total absence of any debate in the Indian 
public sphere about the setback to the fight against caste at the international 
level.

Why does caste continue to be an issue raised only by Dalits today? What is the 
role of civil societal groups in this?

Why it is that society remains indifferent to atrocities on Dalits - even 
though every hour two Dalits are assaulted, every day three Dalit women are 
raped, two Dalits are murdered and two Dalit houses burnt?

Why have NGOs come to dominate the UN interventions on caste? Are social/ 
political/ activist movements being left behind?

To debate and raise awareness on these issues and to broaden the scope of the 
global effort at fighting caste, we invite you to three sessions of debate and 
discussion:

THE EXPERIENCE OF INTERNATIONALISING CASTE: Ashok Bharti (National 
Confederation of Dalit Organisations, NACDOR), Paul Divakar, National Council 
for Dalit Human Rights NCDHR; Colin Gonsalves (Human Rights Law Network, HRLN)

CASTE - THE MEDIA'S COMPLICITY AND SILENCE: Neelabh Mishra (Outlook Hindi) and 
Pamela Philipose (Senior Journalist)

CASTE AND OTHER QUESTIONS: RACISM, COMMUNALISM, IMPERIALISM: Praful Bidwai 
(Senior Journalist), Annie Namala (Director, Centre for Programming Inclusion 
and Equity), Surinder Jodhka (Director, Indian Institute of Dalit Studies)

Moderator: S. Anand, Navayana

Each panel will be for about 40 minutes, followed by 10 minutes of discussion. 
After the concluding panel, it will be an Open House.

Tea will be served at 3.30 p.m.

For further details contact Madhuresh at Cacim 9818905316 (www.cacim.net) or 
Anand at Navayana 9971433117 (www.navayana.org).

Click here for ISI location: http://www.isidelhi.org.in/contactus.php#location

A READY-RECKONER OF ONLINE REFERENCES AND RESOURCES:

1.The official Durban Review Conference 
website[http://www.un.org/durbanreview2009/].

2.Human Rights Watch on how and why DRC failed on caste. The site also offers 
extensive background and position papers. [http://www.un.org/durbanreview2009/]

3.International Dalit Solidarity Network website. Offers joint statement by 
IDSN, HRW and NCDHR; plus a press kit. 
[http://www.idsn.org/news-resources/idsn-news/read/article/durban-review-conference-break-the-un-silence-on-caste-discrimination/128/]

4.Caste and the World, S. Anand, The Hindu, May 24, 2009. 
[http://www.hindu.com/mag/2009/05/24/stories/2009052450180500.htm]

5.Caste: Racism in all but name? Shobhan Saxena's Times of India report on DRC, 
26 Apr 2009. 
[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Deep-Focus/Caste-Racism-in-all-but-name/articleshow/4449716.cms]

6.Caste Out, Yet Again, EPW editorial on Durban Review Conference; May16 2009. 
[http://epw.in/epw/uploads/articles/13508.pdf}

7.Seminar, the monthly journal, devoted an entire issue (Dec 2001) to the 
Durban WCAR conference of 2001. Features articles by Martin Macwan, Kancha 
Ilaiah, Gopal Guru, Dipankar Gupta, Soli Sorabjee and others. [ 
http://www.india-seminar.com/2001/508.htm]

8.Race and Caste, Andre Beteille, The Hindu, March 10, 2001. A controversial 
article that triggered a huge debate. 
[http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2001/03/10/stories/05102523.htm]

9.Race and caste: A Response to Andre Beteille by Kalpana Kannabiran, August 
2001 [http://www.pucl.org/reports/National/2001/beteille.htm]. Also see this 
letter to The Hindu. [http://www.hindu.com/2001/03/14/stories/05141306.htm]

10.India's Apartheid, Rajeev Dhavan, The Hindu, August 24, 2001 
[http://www.hindu.com/2001/03/14/stories/05141306.htm]

11.Is Durban the answer? Vir Singh, The Hindu, September 02, 2001 
[http://www.hindu.com/2001/09/02/stories/1302054a.htm]

12.Caste, race and sociologists - I, Gail Omvedt, The Hindu, October 18, 2001 
[http://www.hindu.com/2001/10/18/stories/05182524.htm]

13.Caste, race and sociologists - II, Gail Omvedt, The Hindu, October 19, 2001 
[http://www.hindu.com/2001/10/19/stories/05192524.htm]

14.Caste, Race and the Indian Anthropologists, Amarjit Singh, ambedkar.org 
[http://www.ambedkar.org/WCAR/CasteRace.htm]

15.The Durban dip can cleanse a billion sins, ChandraBhan Prasad, Aug 2001. 
[http://www.ambedkar.org/chandrabhan/TheDurban.htm]

16.En Route to Durban: Thoughts on Caste and Race, Vijay Parshad, n.d. 
[http://illvox.org/2007/06/en-route-to-durban-thoughts-on-caste-and-race/]

17.CPI(M) official position statement on WCAR, Durban; 3 August 2001 
[http://cpim.org/statement/2001/2001_Aug_03_durban_conference.htm]

18.Caste and the U.N. meet, Kancha Ilaiah, The Hindu, August 21, 2001 
[http://www.hinduonnet.com/2001/08/21/stories/05212523.htm]

19.Caste and Race, Naunidhi Kaur, Frontline, 6 July 2001 
[http://www.hindu.com/fline/fl1813/18130950.htm]

20.PUCL's special focus on the 2001 Durban countdown debates. 
[http://www.pucl.org/reports/National/2001/debate.htm]

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